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From Air Force to FKTea: Kevin Shears on Wellness, Purpose, and Building a Brand
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In this episode of Security Halt!, host Deny Caballero sits down with Kevin Shears, one of the founders of FKTea, to explore his powerful transition from the military to entrepreneurship. Kevin shares how his passion for health, nutrition, and community led to the creation of FKTea—a purpose-driven tea company focused on improving mental clarity, physical performance, and holistic well-being.
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- Kevin’s transition from active duty to business ownership
- The story and mission behind FKT
- The intersection of health, performance, and post-military identity
- The real challenges of balancing family life with business growth
- Why community, purpose, and mental wellness are central to lasting success
Whether you're a veteran, entrepreneur, or advocate for wellness, this episode is packed with insights on turning military values into meaningful impact.
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Securepodcast is proudly sponsored by Titans Arms. Head over to the episode description and check out Titans Arms today. Yeah, I finally had to like tame it so like I cut the sides down, I got a little fucking man bun action Super long in the top. My little one. She likes to grab my hair and she started like and the beard too. She's pulled an entire patch of my beard out.
Speaker 2:That's why I've always been happy. I'm a smooth face and I can't get, you know, like this little shit stash is all I get. And the kids are like dad, you can't ever have a motorcycle because you have to have a beard. I'm like what does that have to do with shit? That doesn't do anything. They're like no, you can't.
Speaker 1:So yeah it my wife hates it, kids hate it.
Speaker 2:No dude, it looks clean alice, I know what I'm doing. We're around a little two by four like man, kevin cheers.
Speaker 1:Fkt is the name. Yeah, fucking game dude loving it, bro. Bro, welcome to the show, thank you. I ordered a case a while back and I'm I? I don't drink alcohol. I enjoy my fizzies, it's my thing like my liquid. Death, bro. I almost had to fight my wife for the last fucking tea because I ordered. I ordered two, the green tea and the slightly sweetened. Both are fucking good and you're, how the fuck are you in the tea game, dog? Everybody else is trying to do t-shirts. We're constantly trying to keep up with you. First it's snake farm, then everybody's like oh man, I gotta get. I got a good idea for a t-shirt. Check it out. It's a skull nods and a fucking Valhalla right.
Speaker 2:Send it. Yeah, that sounds very refreshing, you know.
Speaker 1:Now you're on to bigger and better things. But, dude, how are you constantly pushing the envelope of what it means to be a veteran but also an entrepreneur man? Because now more than ever, dudes are getting out and they want to go into business. And, dude, who better to talk us through the pitfalls, the successes, how to reinvent, how to pivot, than you, man? So let's take it all the way back to the very beginning, before we dive into the new stuff.
Speaker 2:Thanks, man, that's an awesome introduction. Thanks, Denny. Yeah, man, dude, it's been a ride, right like I think it. It just boils down to never being satisfied with what I'm doing and always wanting to do shit with, with, with people, right, like I started out in big you know recap I started out in the air force, joined 18, went to vegas after high school, was like fuck, you know, live with my parents and you know I didn't know you had to pay credit card debt back. So that was, that was wild, right. So I was like swipe, swipe, swipe, fucking charges to the game. You know I was buying stupid shit, fast and Furious rims and subwoofers and stuff. And so I was like, you know, a more tactical ISR on the uh sensor operator type thing, um. And then I moved to, uh, you know, and I finished my career as a tech DJ, tech, um.
Speaker 2:Throughout that it was always just like me evolving and getting better for myself. And then eventually, you know, I met my, my wife and two boys. You know I have two boys and it's always like, okay, this is cool, but like like how do we improve? Right, how do we improve? Um, and not like keeping up with what everybody else is doing just like what do we want, what do I actually want, right. And before it wasn't like that right, it was just kind of like you're, you know, partying and just doing bullshit. And then I realized like, hey, like these guys are cool as shit, I want to be around my family a lot, contracting overseas or, you know, deployments or whatever. Just being on the road all the time and putting all everything I had into my career didn't leave a lot of time for family stuff, right, you hear the same thing over and over again. So it was like when I'm home now I want to make the most of it.
Speaker 2:And I started out doing military industrial complex shit, right. So I was in the Air National Guard at the end of my career. So I was, you know, a team leader, jtac and the Air National Guard, by day, sometimes for a year at a time. And then I would go and do business development for a defense tech contracting company, right, working on UASs and networks in foreign foreign countries and shit like that. And it was cool. It was great until it wasn't right and I was like this is what I want to do for the rest of my life. Yeah, I'm going to South America and Pacific, and sometimes Iraq, afghanistan, but it was taking me away from my family in a way that wasn't like for service anymore. Right now I'm just doing it for fat checks, right. That's the first time I've ever seen a six-figure paycheck, right.
Speaker 2:So for a guy who could barely read, you know, coming out of the Air Force, I was like, yeah, let's do it Right, this is awesome. Um, so I learned a lot of cool shit, and they all in the air force, especially the air force special warfare where I came from. Those guys teach us and you know, this is my, this is the biggest thing I've talked about Like, those guys teach us so many soft skills or bring that shit out of you Right, when you go through any selection assessment and you go through a pipeline exceptional, you know high performing individuals, no matter if that's army, air force, navy, right, like you're, you know you're brought out. The best is brought out of you every day and you just got to keep, keep pushing that shit. I fucking lost my train of thought on that.
Speaker 1:I think now you're good.
Speaker 2:I'll be out.
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Speaker 1:That was dope dude, do that again, I want to go back to something that you shared, that quick pivot into the military industrial complex, the contracting world. Man, yeah, yeah, yeah, some of the greatest dudes from your background, from our special operations, our Air Force special operations, have a very easy transition into that world because, dude, you've worked with those contractors, yeah, yeah, yeah. And oftentimes as easy transition into that world because you've you've worked with those contractors, yeah, and oftentimes, as soon as they find out you're leaving, they're the first ones to be like hey yo.
Speaker 2:Right, you want to come on over I want to come talk to these guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, cause, like your whole job is a tech, p, j, tax, ect, right, like air force guy is is to sell right to this commander, whether it be army, navy, marine right? So like, naturally those soft skills are in you and the air force teaches you how to sell in. You know, a very stressful, dynamic environment, right, so you know if, if I, some of my best friends, are still in there right in the military industrial complex, you know just making x amount more every year. So you know we have a big truck and you know, on the fucking boat, you know, and like it's great. You know we have a big truck and you know, on the fucking boat, you know and like it's great.
Speaker 2:You know we're all doing mushrooms and smoking a little bit of doubles cabbage every once in a while. But like, at the end of the day, like you're like logging on it monday morning like fuck, this blows cheeks, yeah, what's up, stod, oh, you did what, yeah, yeah. And so like I did that for a while and I was like I don't want to do this no more, and so that's where you know, that's, that's what was born out of it. Yeah, that's when you start you got to dag?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you got to. You got to dig down into the skills that you already have and figure out how the fuck you're going to do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's hard, it's scary, you know, I know I talked to a lot of dudes about it. Honestly, like that's, that's like find something you're good at or that you want to do, but it has to be like you got to be smart about it, you got to be emotionally intelligent about like you can't just go back. Well, I just love making fucking t shirts like dude, okay, but what's what's that going to do for you? What's the skills that you learned in the military outside right? And like a lot of our shit is tech, a lot of our stuff is communications and sales, so like that's what you know. At the end we'll talk about it. Like, at the end of the day, that's what I'm trying to leverage here. I've always tried to leverage the community for good and you know that's that's. It's a technique leveraging community for good and not evil.
Speaker 1:but uh, we'll see and that's something that a lot of guys don't even understand what they're doing when they're doing a meme page like you're rallying. You're rallying a base dog. Now what?
Speaker 2:do you do? What do you do like, are you?
Speaker 1:are you introducing them to a product? Are you the product? Are you trying to push your ugly fucking face through your fucking podcast under the people that followed you for fucking memes? Right, right, calling myself out, I don't want to say like it's like one of those things where, like you stumble upon a concept that can catch fire and then it's like oh dude, what are you gonna do with it? You got, you got some traction here. What can you build off of it? And I think there's something, something to be said for the guys that do the proper approach, the school approach, to go get an MBA, and they really understand that. But there's also something to be said for the guys that don't go through an MBA program that figure out how to build a business. Like for yourself, when you started going into the entrepreneurial world, did you find yourself like having doubts because you didn't have that collegiate background?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean that, you know, I, I do definitely sometimes doubt, right, like it's, this is, it's, it's pretty, you know we're, you know we're playing with real money here, right, even with snake farm. And so I, before you know, before this, I, I cut my teeth in direct-to-consumer e-commerce back in 16 when we started a direct-to-consumer skateboard company called Snake Farm. It was veteran-based, it was one of the first ones out there. We took a small angel investment from some of our friends and we ran with that for about eight, seven, eight something years. I left that end of last year to kind of go on my own and figure out what I wanted to do, which ended up being starting fkt with my friends, right.
Speaker 2:But to your question yeah, man, like the imposter syndrome, like am I doing this shit? Like I can't even read, like did I even go to a fucking nba? Like should I be doing this stuff? 100, it's always there, right, and that's where I think having a strong network, friend group, right, peer group, or, you know, for my case, I have a really, really great relationship with my wife and we talk through these things, right, yeah, hey, I'm not feeling like I should be managing this big of a marketing budget. I've never managed it at this scale before. It's fucking. We're playing with hundreds of thousands of dollars here. Yeah, but what got you here? Right, you got to remember why do you have the opportunity to mess around with $ thousand dollar, two hundred thousand dollar marketing budget? Why are you now increasing production to 110 000 you know percent, whatever? It's just like, okay, we can do this. This isn't and that's why I love guys coming from the communities like this isn't the hardest thing you've ever done. Like we, we waste. You know. We lost, um, a pallet of cans over two thousand something cans because a pill packer fucked up. Right, you know a lot of people you know, especially on Twitter. That's where I get a lot of my engagements on with the other business.
Speaker 2:Folks are like that shit happens. Like my, my milk spoiled and like, ah, what the fuck you know? Or my tea spoiled and it's like dude, this is not the hardest thing I've ever done. Right, like we can. It puts everything in perspective when you're doing hard shit outside your comfort zone that aren't physical. Like, let me take a step back. These guys aren't trying to fucking make my eyes pop out of my head. I'm not going to shit myself, right, and I'm. You know, I'm not getting going to get blown up Like, okay, cool, let me refucking, cage it. I'm a bad bitch, as the kids say. Right, and let me refocus.
Speaker 1:That's how I look, fuck it, man, let's dive right into this, because I'm excited and I'm way too eager to wait and dance around it. Yeah, man, I haven't seen anything like this. Yeah, and that's fucking amazing, thank you. Where did the idea for FKT come from? Because a special operations guy who had a bad-ass skate company now is going into T and when we last talked you were actually in Japan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, where did this all start? This all started with my friends, that. So I met them through snake farm. Right, I met them through snake farm on the internet. Back in the day, you know, I was getting out of the military, I was kind of transitioning, uh, into an air national guard slash the overseas contracting roles. And I was. I was a conventional tech b, I was special operations adjacent, as the kids would say. So I don't want listen, I'm not, you're not gonna fucking be me, me, me to death, dog. I know how the internet works. Hell, no, so that's it. Get the anti-hero podcast.
Speaker 1:In here we got another tim kennedy I wasn't.
Speaker 2:I didn't blouse my boots, but, hey, listen, I couldn't grow a beard, which we already talked about. Well, yeah, man. So I met those guys through the snake farm. We became friends. Uh, as I was getting down the military, um, I wanted to continue doing hard shit. Right, because, like I said, my two kids are fucking huge. They're athletic, they're smart. They deserve this to be fathered and cared for and loved by someone who's putting the same shit on the line, right? So if I'm telling my kid who wants to go play NBA basketball, my other kid who wants to go play fucking NFL football, he's a state wrestler, he's double golding in jujitsu, gi, no, gi. Like, these kids, you know, are athletes and they deserve to see their mother and father putting in the work that we're telling them. Right, if I'm telling you, you know, it takes 10,000 hours to be good and you got to fucking put all this work in always, you know, no-transcript, a troll run in austin called the austin rattler. Yeah, so that's a big. It's a big one sponsored by lifetime events.
Speaker 2:We went all did that, fucking, crushed it, loved it, had fun. We're like yo, this is pretty crazy. Let's, let's do something else. Um, right after that I got invited to build a team mostly, again, veterans, mostly tech, peas, ccts, uh, and a couple of our civilian friends. We ran. It's called the speed project. It's an unsanctioned race from the santa monica pier in los angeles to las vegas on foot. So you guys run as a team like hopscotching each other. One person's always running 300 something miles on foot. Yeah, it was. It was dope as fuck. Like we were running.
Speaker 2:We were like, you know, just a bunch of dumb air force kids like, no, we're gonna go straight. No, no, highways, we're going straight. So we're like on jeep trails. You know, this is like five million dollars worth of high human weapon systems in a truck or in a, in a forerunner, like about to fucking slide off the air force. But to have a mat, you know like an entire gdp's worth of fucking air force guys if the thing slides off. So you know it was. It was an amazing experience. Those guys loved it. Some of those guys were about to deploy, some of those guys were thinking about getting now and it was just like, yeah, this is great. I was like, well, hey, how about we just do hard shit all the time with our friends, right? So that's where I met my friend, my co-founder's quest, trey wayne. We all ended up doing a hundred mile race in colorado called the leadville 100, so 23 the leadville 100 yeah, completed it last year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so I was supposed to. So we were all supposed to do it in 23. Um, out of austin rattler, we all came out one I had. I ended up getting a a token for free to enter the Leadville 123. I ended up breaking my foot, deferring to 24. Quest and Trey went ahead, crushed it. They both got bell buckles. That entire team came back, 24 for me and I ran it 24. Damn, you got a bell buckle, yeah. And so that was like the basis of it.
Speaker 2:Man Quest was like yo, we really are. You know, he's been doing high grade japanese green tea for 15 plus years. Like gone to japan, like you know, he was the plug when we went over there. He knew that we went to farms and talked with the farmers and he was like I really want to make a ready to drink energy drink based off japanese green tea. Uh, and the differentiator is going to be we'll use like local louisian honey because it's delicious and organic and fantastic. And it was like let me look at it. I looked at it for like eight minutes and I was like okay, this is great, let's do it. And for the last nine months that's all I've been working on. My full-time job has been FKT and Quest. Trey and Wayne have taken their sections of the business and put it together and we've all, like, built this rocket ship over the last nine months. Amazing traction in our community we'll talk about, and now we're in the middle of a fundraising round that's going really well and it's going to be going pretty soon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the product speaks for itself. Man, I wasn't a fan. I've always had moments where I've subscribed to drinking like white tea or green tea at night and I, full stop, do not enjoy Southern sweet tea, don't? I hate it, cannot stand it. That's crazy. I ordered a package and I didn't know what to expect. Didn't know what to expect so I ordered both the green and the gold, sweet and unsweetened. Got it to the house and did the old taste test. I'm like hey look, I fucked with this dude.
Speaker 1:This dude, I don't know, I don't know, let's just, let's see what the fuck I'm getting him into. Like I'm not gonna lie to the fucking dude. Like no, no, I kid you not. I literally like was rationing and I'm like this, this was fucking good. And then when it got to the end, it was like I normally just like any other good husband, like if there's something you and the wife both enjoy, defer, fuck that. Fuck that. Nah that I left it one night. The last can sat there. I'm like alright, you slept on it mine, we gotta get you some more. That's easy. So why is the flavor profile so different? Is it just because it's like getting it authentically from?
Speaker 1:japan getting good source. Like what is the the chemistry? Because, like I don't know shit about tea, all I know is that this is different from this. Isn't like fucking sweet louisiana, like like sweet tea you're getting from liptons or anything? This is completely fucking different. The profile the taste.
Speaker 1:It's crisp. It doesn't have a or like I don't know how to describe it, other than it's a crisp taste, like it beats anything that you're gonna get. If you don't have a beer drinker, alcohol drinker like myself, this is the thing that you go to at night to just chill out on the couch. Dude the perfect description for me for for the taste, the profile unwind and it's enjoyable. Dude like you're not forcing it down once you crack it open because you don't want to be wasteful.
Speaker 2:No, no man I appreciate you saying those, those words, man, like that's, like that's, that's. You're saying things that we say internally to ourselves. So it's really not, you know, rewarding and and great, honestly, to hear you say this thing Cris, clean, refreshing, enjoy, that's all the shit that we're saying. So it's made with rare Japanese green tea, right, and when we say rare, it's like we're going to, through direct connections to farmers and producers over in Japan. We are sourcing some of the best shade-grown sometimes not shade-grown some of it's hand-clipped hand clips, right, we sprinkle in a bit some from different regions of japan, um, to equal this blend in the profile that you get in the original, the original blend, right? So the original one is I'm actually doing this, or authentically, organically, or whatever they say because I have to go my kids in the middle of cross-country practice, slash football, slash basketball. So we're going to go run some hills at two, at 97 degrees outside, so we get, you know, 70 milligrams, so. So we take every day is a selection process in my dog.
Speaker 2:I got a video, so I started one of those ray-ban meta glasses, uh, and he's just fucking me up. No, he can't hear me, has it? Look, geez, we're doing like death by 25 millimeter or meter sprints yesterday and he's just like, slowly the pace, the pace he's beating me. I'm like, all right, I gotta remember, I gotta remember. You know, I'm not no slouch, respectfully, you know a little bit I'm a slouch, I've been, I've been working, I'm a house cat nowadays. So, yeah, we start with that. Right, we blend, you know, some, you know, hand cut, shade grown um japanese green tea, straight now that we import straight from over here, right then we take Louisiana honey. That's the only sugar that's in it, it's all natural, no added sugars, and that's the only thing we sweeten it with. And then we bring in organic yerba mate from Argentina because that helps, like, that's like a big L-theanine dump right for the caffeine.
Speaker 2:So you get the nice clean caffeine 70 milligrams of caffeine from the from the green tea. You get the nice L caffeine 70 milligrams of caffeine from the green tea. You get the nice L-theanine from the yerba mate and then we carbonate it. And then we carbonate it just a little bit and there was different carbonation profiles that we messed with at our original testing lab in Louisiana or New Orleans. That was like the second one. We hit it second time. We're like oh, this is delicious, right, because you know it's refreshing.
Speaker 2:A lot of the, a lot of the tea stuff you get is flat, right, there's real heavy sugar in it and you know, whereas this is, the original is sweet, it's crisp. I'm drinking it right now in the middle of the day or when it's hot, because the the louisiana honey is just a nice mellow flavor to it and it just gives, it takes away that uh, umami flavor that you get with green tea and the fact that you know, and then where the sweet has extra sugar in it correction, extra honey as well as organic lemon juice in it, so it kind of gives you that um, arnold palmer, fresh from I'm not going to say chick-fil-a or Raising Cane's, because our quest, my business partner, legal, would crush me.
Speaker 2:So it doesn't taste like that at all. So don't try it over ice. It's like last night again, we had dinner in the truck, as we often do for practice. That's our whole thing is like. This is good for you're prepping for selection. You're a businessman working on documents at nine o'clock at night and you got to be in bed by midnight. But you want caffeine, you want a Red Bull? Well, fuck. You drink all natural tea based. You know FKT, right? The FK is dual double entendre, right? I don't know my medical. It would be a finest known tea. And then in the endurance world, an FKT is your fastest known time for an endurance segment, right? So there's a fastest known time for dude. I'm telling you, this is what happens when I'm on the trail like this. You know what we should do it's all coming together.
Speaker 2:It's all coming together that's our base, that's our mode, right, like we'd love doing hard, hard to do shit like in a lot of that stuff is endurance racing. My big dream is to start an adventure racing team and we just go adventure race all over the world. We're already in the roadmap. Right now, this year, we're sponsoring the Austin Rattler as the energy drink sponsor, as the official energy drink sponsor, as part of the beginning partnerships with more Lifetime events. Lifetime and them have been great races and things like that and part of our story, so we're going to fucking try to do some cool shit with them and branch out man Dude.
Speaker 1:this is something that's needed within the veteran community, not only as inspiration, but as a product that we can go out Like. One of the one of the big things that I always talk about is there's a there's a big spotlight on mental health right now, and I'm in. I'm in the forefront. I'm trying to champion some causes that aren't popular, but what goes hand in hand is physical fitness nutrition. If we can get you working out again, if we can get you to make some better, healthier choices and what you're putting into your body, you're going to feel better.
Speaker 1:You're going to see yourself in the mirror as that former action guy it's the guy that used to get it You're going to feel better about who you are. It's going to make you more receptive to wanting to continue to pull the thread on positive things in your life. Maybe you'll eventually talk. Go to talk therapy, be willing to try meditation, be willing to try mindfulness. And right now, man, man, one of the easiest things we can cut out of our freaking diet is soda like. But it's easy to fall in love with this idea as the entrepreneur and solely focus on creating the product. You open up the aperture and you got to start looking at competitors. How is fk fkt going to fight against the big fucking brands that are just able to shove so much more money into the marketing and getting their product into people's faces, which is helping fuel things like diabetes, helping fuel things like hypertension? How do we fight those fucking monsters and get your tea into the hand and face of veterans?
Speaker 2:yeah. So I mean, it's really we're gonna. We're gonna do what we always done. Right, like what was it with, you know, starting a meme page, starting a skateboard company, you know, working alongside my friend, jared, you know, at his black rifle? Like it's just about attracting the right people, right and? And people say community, community, community. But community is not just like, hey, we're going to have a pop-up store, can buy my shit. Right, like you have to go somewhere and make it better. Right, like you have to bring people along for the ride and I and I'll just be like yo, me and my friends are going to fucking yes, we're going to scotland.
Speaker 1:Dude, this is fucking rad, you know, like thanks for fucking buying my shirts, pussy.
Speaker 2:No, you can do whatever you say, whatever the fuck you want. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, you know, like, I think one of my fucking I don't know man, I just it's like snake farm. We ran that thing for eight, nine years. We never took a paycheck from it, right, all everything went, either went back into the business or went into one of the founders daughter's college fund.
Speaker 2:Man, like, if you're doing it for the right reasons, people, people can tell when you interact that, right. So my way, there's two, there's two ways to build something and get traction behind it. Right, you can build hype, fomo and fucking, we're only doing eight, we're only making eight of these is here's this drop. Right, that's where we saw a lot of rise in the veteran drop culture, like pre-orders and shit like that, which is great, right, everything you know has a cycle. But now it's like, okay, we have to do communities. That's why running clubs are so popular. That's why, you know, I saw something I think you had somebody on that's like a veteran night dude. Yeah, I love that, I fuck it. I fuck board games right like so.
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Speaker 2:I I think the more we learn and talk about, kind of like you said, it's okay to be a little nerdy and off and want to do cool shit, so the more that you drill down into those niches and say, hey, veteran is part of who I am, but a lot of motherfuckers make it their identity, dude, and it's just like shut up, I get it, I get it, man. We spent so much and so so much time. There was a lot of loss and a lot of our formative years were spent as veterans. But if we haven't set ourselves up or have never thought about the future and aren't, and like to your point, thinking about it, the future in a positive light, then we're, we're just it was all for, not. We're just setting ourselves up for failure and you're not going to be happy, right, and that's how you end up being a fucking program manager or a fucking business developer at you know a Fortune 300 defense company, you know getting tickled with six figures, and you're just like dude, I fucking hate this job. I'm like I bet you do bitch Like nah, I can't Like. Okay, man, maybe your lifestyle has changed, but lifestyle change and shit is hard right, like we just went. You know, we've been poor for nine months, dude. Now it's just turning around.
Speaker 2:Now it's like, okay, it was worth it, right, but there was times in the last nine months when we were building this shit. You know, I'm doing this day in and day out. Fkt doesn't have the money to pay, collectively agreed and, like me, was a biggest advocate, because I'm always like you know, the fucking team comes first, the mission comes first, right, we'll fucking focus, which is something I had to realign myself on, right, like I gotta understand. And this is, you know, we're just spitballing here, but your family's, your team too, and sometimes they, you gotta. It's hard for us to remember that. It's hard for us to remember that when you're especially when you're building a business, dude, because this shit's harder on its own and then trying to balance being a family man as well. So that's, you know, last nine months was wild. Everybody thinks being an entrepreneur is sexy because you know you can be your own boss and wake up and smoke crack as soon as you wake up and like, yeah, you can do all those things.
Speaker 1:But, brother in between, those two crack sessions is fucking dude. There's. There's nothing worse than than um and I and speaking from a solo entrepreneur like it's, um, there's. There's so many like you get the inbox or the emails where people are just like, man, you gotta be loving life and you're just like yeah, fuck, yeah. It's like you rake wiping tears, like yeah, yeah, I love this man, it's a great idea the highs, the highs are high. Let me tell you, dude, it's, it's what I can't?
Speaker 2:I sent a meme with my wife highs, the highs are high. Let me tell you, dude, it's, it's. I can't. I sent a meme with my wife a long time but it was just like one day you're crying, one day you're laughing, you know you're crying. The next day you're laughing and it's the highest day ever.
Speaker 2:Like that's entrepreneurship, like that's believe in it, and you're just copying other people's shit. Like you know, I love to help dudes out, but if you're, you know, and it's kind of same thing to you, like spend a year traveling with you know a good friend, and learning the, the back end of building community, building business right into a multi-million billion dollar company. So with that education I was able to see a lot of behind the scenes things and a lot of, a lot of dudes say the same stuff. It's like, well, I don't want to work for anybody else. Well, you know, like I like this and like I know like 40, 20 people that will do it. I'm like, yeah, dog, you know 20 people that will buy that shirt or that widget or that fucking protein shake, whatever. Once can you get them to do it again and again?
Speaker 2:and again and again like what's the lifetime value of that fucking guy buying that t-shirt? So if you're sitting here sinking in twenty thousand,000, $15,000 in the front end of it, not thinking how the fuck am I going to get that shit back, cause that's just going to X, you know, expand, you're fucked. And no, you know, no one wants to have those conversations, no one tells you those things, right, it's always like ah, you got to get a fucking podcast, mike, and you got to get, and you got to build in public. It's in public. The right way is hard, really hard. It's not done well, not done easy. So I I kind of bounce back and forth. I'm really, I'm a really private person. I'm, you know, I do a lot of shit. Like you said, like you know, I'm actually leaving to go teach rally racing next week.
Speaker 1:Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, no. I'm heading to New Orleans to go. Can we're going to go do a brew? And then I'm heading to New Orleans. Then I'm heading to Austin to teach rally racing and then I'm leaving on a red eye from Austin rally racing to go fly to Portland to run 200 miles with some like endurance runners and a couple NFL players from the top of Mount Hood down to the coast, and then that's awesome, that's August.
Speaker 1:Stop being so fucking awesome at everything you're doing.
Speaker 2:Listen, it's honestly a gift and a curse. No, it's cool. It's cool man.
Speaker 1:Like it's at the end of the day. I put my pants on just like every other human being. I just got a big, massive set of balls homie.
Speaker 2:I can do a zone to run for four hours, my wife still won't touch me. No, she's not impressed, oh man. And like you know it's. It's like this is what we set the life up to do, right? Like this is what we've been working for you. Like this is what we've been working for. You know, gaining these skills, gaining these contacts, and you know, getting into these rooms where these people are like, oh, we should do this, we should do that, and having access to place and all these things, and say, okay, yeah, I could go do that, but is that going to benefit only me? Or how do I leverage this that we can bring more people with me, right? And it's like that's what we're doing here. Like how do I leverage a relationship with lifetime fitness that I can get more of my dudes into working out or into these trail races, which is another thing they have to train for year-round, which is something hard, kind of like a selection, but it's also fun.
Speaker 2:The parties at a lead, at lead, bill and austin rattler are fucking amazing. You know, community, it's fun, right, that's shit we should be doing, right? You want to, you want to drink, and you know and. And you know, community. It's fun, right, that's shit we should be doing. Right, you want to, you want to drink, and you know, and, and you know, put shit up your butt and your nose. Like, let's do it. But let's do it after we just fucking ran 50 kilometers or 100 miles.
Speaker 2:Right, you know you probably won't want to, but if you do I'll be fine, or else we're just fucking off and doing the same shit. Right, I don't ever want to be doing the same shit. It's not because I'm bored, not because I have adhd, it's because, like, I want to keep evolving. Um, and a lot of it again is because there's those dudes out there, like with headphones on. Like, if you fucking say anything, they hear you, I'm gonna kill you on this podcast. Um, that's why I told them right before I came on here. I was like, if I hear you guys, you're dead. Um, yeah, you know, like they deserve that.
Speaker 1:So you know, one thing that I love about your journey is you're showing everybody that if you want to be a high achiever in business, in entrepreneurial endeavors, you have to be a high achiever in life altogether. Yeah, you're not going to be. Yeah, if you sit at your desk and you're dealing with hypertension and you're dealing with, you know, early onset diabetes, you're not going to be successful in this. Maybe if you have a million dollar idea, maybe If you're going to have big dreams. You got to have the ability to go out there and do big feats Like. You are doing all of us a huge public service by showing us that, like you can fucking do this. You can do both of these. Like, seeing your shit motivated me to like, do my first. Like, yeah, my first attempt at the savage loop was fucking horrible, absolutely horrible, but I fucking went as far as I could and I did it because I'm seeing other veterans around me strive to do big shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a huge man. Yeah, looking at where FKT is at right now, what's your next fucking goal? What's the next metric you guys need to hit?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, yeah, so I mean this. Really it's just expansion, right, like so, everything we've done, all the traction we've done, you know it's all been right, like so, everything we've done, all the traction we've done, you know it's. It's all been word of mouth. We've. We put $299 into one advertisement and that was in a trade magazine for beverage, functional beverages, and we had a couple of warm leads off that that we're going to, you know, grocery stores and shit like that, um, health stores. But really we've been listening to what everybody says about what we have and we've been. It's right. It's time for it to extend. Honestly, like I want to. I think it's going to be big for us. A lot of the things we're going to be doing is experience, experiential, right, like we're going to be popping up and I think like a uso tour, but I don't want to say cooler, because they were, you know, they chiseled out right yeah, you know people got tired of of you know all those troops again, you know, right, like, honestly, like, oh shit, these guys are still here.
Speaker 2:What the fuck I'm like? Okay, just sign the card, damn it, I'm just signed the card um another country song about 9-11 you got me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I'm still playing morgan wallen, but yeah, it's just expansion, like we're, like I'm heading down next week we're gonna, we're going to slim cans. Right, everything we've done, I mean we went from filling these things up in eight ounce tester bottles by hand to hand you know hand labeled cans, to upgraded hand labeled cans, different recipe, with a bigger, you know better quality production, to now we're going to go into digital slim cans. Fucking, that can go sit next to your monster red bull right in the gas station and then from there, we're just gonna you know when can I get it at a local gas station.
Speaker 1:I want to be able to drive in and pick it up right now it's, it's.
Speaker 2:I mean you're kind of fucked because here's what's going to happen. So, like you know me being air force, you know me being a jtac, like in quest, our business partner who brew master, and he leads strategy for us. Yeah, he's a lawyer by trade. So, like, all we do is all we do is fucking swirl and red, you know, and red in red team, and plan and like what if this, what if that? So, uh, I think we are being very strategic and that's again right, like having good partners, having good people. Quest is never in the military, right, he's, you know, he's been a lawyer his entire time, so he brings a different perspective than it would have been like three or four air force dudes. Right, I'm the only military person on, you know, in the company. So it's just diversifying your bonds as far as like skill sets and people has been really helpful to me. Like I have my military friends and you know we hang out and we, you know there's different groups, those of us who've moved moved, I don't want to say moved on. We have other things.
Speaker 2:I was just in New York with one of my best friends. We started snake farm together. He lives in New York now he's working at a biotech farm. He's fucking crushing it. We were both contracting overseas together. We both decided at the same time hey, let's not do this anymore, this isn't going to be a life. This isn like. This is gonna be your life. Yeah, this isn't gonna be your life for the rest of our lives. So we actually ended up our last rotation together, right, he came back home and never you know, rotated over again um. He went on to college and I went on to do business business devs right in um corporate defense contracting. Now I'm entrepreneur, full-time ceo, doing this for fkt. He is at a biotech startup working on bladder cancer and he's just fucking dog, like and like.
Speaker 2:And then the other side of it is another one of the owners that started it with us is like you know, like their other stuff, are still doing military stuff, right, so just, you know, that's like my friend group as well, still doing military stuff, is split. So, like you see us, he's doing biotech stuff, I'm doing entrepreneur stuff, you see my friends doing business development stuff and things like that, and it's just there's definitely a divide, and so when we do hang out, it's always like all right, which kind of like hangout is this gonna be? Is gonna be like dude. I don't want to tell you, but like I was on a chopper the other day, I'm like, oh shit, word, that sounds hot, um, you know, and it's just like the other guy's like dude. This is what I'm really dreaming of. I'm really envisioning like I want to do this with my life and like the family's doing that and like I just find myself as the more I get away from it, more removed.
Speaker 2:I've been out of the military for three years now. I believe the guard fucked it up, idiots. Um, so I don't even know when I got out. Honestly, anyways, I don't want to talk about it. Um, that's probably the worst thing that ever happened to me is fucking anyways. Uh, you know it's not either here or there.
Speaker 1:Just we won't touch it either here nor there.
Speaker 2:I would fucking cut you with a katana right now if I was legally allowed to, but anyways, enough about me, dude.
Speaker 1:oh my god, going through this journey, man, like one thing, thing that also stands out that I love, that we can highlight, dude, is your commitment to your family and your kids. Man, we spend so much time trying to build something and a lot of guys can get in the pitfall of devoting all the resources, all their focus on the mission, on the new product they're trying to roll out, the new business. Is it your wife that keeps you humble? Is it just always just having the understanding of, like? I owe it to my boys? How do you continue to remain present and focus on the family?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, and I had a good childhood growing up mom and dad right, so I don't have anything crazy to talk about. But it's just like, what kind of relationship do I want to have with my kids when they're older? And I had to figure out what is important to me. Like it's just me. It's just me in my head right, Maybe we're on a little space ride. What is most important to me?
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Speaker 2:What you know and it's having a relationship with them. You know them. You know them seeing me in a positive light and like actually loving me, and I still keep my kids, still come give me kisses and you know, and hugs and shit and data, and they're fucking 14 and 13 years old, right, where if you're in the streets, they're not talking like that. I'm like what'd you say, you know, but at the house, you know, um, I don't hold me dog, you know like. You know, what do I want? What do I really want, right? Do I want to be out in these streets like and and fucking partying, and you know, coming home and not being able to be hanging out with them because I'm hungover, or do I want to be present with them and what's that life look like? And I thought about that. Hours, hours, hours, hours. Usually what I'm learning is these races or training. I'm not running with headphones, I'm just in my head right, thinking about shit, or I'm playing Drake and so like, and what I've decided is I want to. You know, this is the life I want and that's. You know.
Speaker 2:Sometimes it's hard to it's hard to remember to prioritize it honestly, right, especially with the fucking newer shit, there's no, there's no guardrails, there's no guardrails. Of saying like, well, I'm working for fucking Raytheon and they're not going to. You know, I don't have to work on Saturday, there's done by. The four of us at FKT is not getting done Right, and a lot of the times right now is like being the primary um full-time person. A lot of that falls on a lot on me, and so it's just been like again learning how to prioritize as equally important my family time with military time. Or see, uh, they got me to the. It's so hard to break the programming.
Speaker 2:What is what was in the water at basic? I'm telling you I'm, my thing hasn't gone down. My shrimp hasn't gone down since basic, perpetually like, just anyways, dude, we gotta cut that. My response is gonna be pissed. It's from the rollover. No, I'm just kidding, I wasn't in a rollover. I don't want to be accused of stolen valor too late. I was just in. The air force already clipped this family.
Speaker 1:I have a family. Sorry dog, too late that shit's out there. Uh, be prepared for 15 different youtube fucking breakdowns of this episode I just wanted to build community authentically.
Speaker 2:Nah, nah, nah, no, no, it's. I mean it's good, I mean, like you know, that's, it is what it is, but I mean, no, that's cool. Yeah, they're important in like giving other dudes because, speaking in the community, like there's, there's been so many people in like black rifle did a building something for themselves and for the dudes around them and for the community and, like I was very proud and fortunate to go to a lot of their events and hang out with them from France to you know all in Texas, like we hung out all over and it's just like dude, if you, you know you're, you're a veteran. Do you love America? Yes, you're cool with us, unless, like that community fucking loves them for that message, right. So like that's, you know there's, they're a good way of doing it. Other people have done it. You know where they use veteran community for not good right and benefit and that's, that's never something.
Speaker 2:I don't want to be a veteran lit founded company or veteran founded company right, it's part of who I am. We're not going to have it on the can or like that, right, like because a lot of people aren't veterans, right? So, while that is part of me and that's part of my story and that's going to be. You know, when we're doing activations on bases and we're in a fees, like fuck you, dude, I want to motivate the next generation of all the special warfares and all you know, the conventional dudes and the mortars guys like dude, this is for us, right. At the same time, I don't want it to be our identity, I don't want it to be your identity, right, yeah, yeah, let's fucking open it up. Yeah, like a teen leaf, yeah, let's open it up, right. So, um, yes, like I'm leaning heavy, like part of that is we're gonna hire most like our first opera. So we're gonna build like a warehouse in oklahoma city, right, full stop, so, yeah, so, like I live in oklahoma city, all the other dudes live in new orleans, like I'm always in new orleans for that, and eventually we're going to build our big in-house you know, handles, walmart, just, you know orders like that in new orleans. That's our plan, like our two-year plan. But for now, we're going to build our warehouse spot, uh, in oklahoma city and you know, we'll have a small production capability and part of that's like I'm going to hire someone like the old dude, the old tack b dudes, like our warehouse operations guys.
Speaker 2:And the x-tack beat I, you know he's a baby j-tack. I mean he grew up like he's doing, done sales for medical sales, he's done sales for other shit and like he's you know, and he's a firefighter. Now he's looking for another job. I'm like dude, don't go sell xyz, like come sell fkt. Right, like my friends who you know live in iowa des moines.
Speaker 2:There's no like sass, you know, or tech industry in topeka kansas. So if you're a, a tack p or pj or cct who's been deployed for the last 20 years or you know whatever training or whatever in those for 20 years you haven't been in topeka kansas, right, there's not a lot of business development jobs that are that aren't remote, whatever training or whatever in the middle for 20 years you haven't been to Topeka Kansas, right, there's not a lot of business development jobs that aren't remote there. So, but you know, I guess, what they are they're our regional grocery stores or our gas stations and markets and things that, right, there are gyms that we can do activations and shit out. So my plan, our plan, is to kind of build out a regional sales force with veterans, with athlete, former athletes, right, because we've seen that work with my friend, nate Boyer, a former NFL Green Beret, right, he's a man. He invited me out to climb Mount Kilimanjaro next year February with him and I was like, yeah, I'll be free, we're going to, you know. So we're going to raise a bunch of money for conquering Kili and the Waterboy is one of his foundations.
Speaker 2:He's on the board on. They build water wells out in South Africa. So it's going to be cool, man, we're going to go. And so he does a great. They do a great job. And I went to Scotland with Merging Bets of Players in the Allied Forces Foundation a couple months ago, where they bring a smorgasbord of UK, us, ukrainian, right, like all these veterans from all these countries Irish fucking studs, you know and they just put them together. We did hard shit. Some of us ran, you know. Ruck ran 37 miles.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dude that was dope as fuck that was. It's the Katerin Yomp. So there's like three stages bronze silver gold. Right, it's through the Scottish Highlands. I went with Allied Forces Foundation Shout out Stu Taylor. They flew us out there, put us up on these, the Royal Marines barracks out there, and then we just, and then we had a Scotland experience. It's all veterans from a different services, military, you know uk, like I said full nine. And then we did the catering yomp which is three stages bronze silver gold 30 miles, 45 and like 60 something.
Speaker 2:You're going through the marshes, the highlands. It was insane. You're rucking it, ruck run. You know we ruck ran, I ruck ran with some.
Speaker 2:I got honeydicked into running with some uh, uk sf dudes, like they're. Like you know I told them I was black and irish, they didn't want. You know they had to bring out the 23. Like they're like you know I told them I was black and Irish, they didn't want it. You know I had to bring up the 23 and me, like big care from big black man from benefits You're one of us Big black kids from benefits, look at him and uh, and then you know I kept up and we fucking crushed it for 30 something, miles, I'm like Miles and I were like yo, dude, you're actually I'm not going to do that actually anymore, they're going to hate that. And then we became, you know, 30 miles running up and down. It was great.
Speaker 2:So now you know, that led to hey, what do you do with FKT? Hey, we have a company over here. Let's start. Let's go do a race in Ireland. Let's go do a race salespeople, right, because that's what you had to sell, coach, my kid's doing it now. Coach, I need to be playing tight end or I need to be this, because here's my skills. I can catch, I run the routes, I know the place better than your fucking son does. He shouldn't be in that position. Bump them out, right, you're always selling Same thing. Hey, ground commander, I need to do X, y and Z. We're X, y and Z. We're always selling. And so, kind of taking that, merging bets and players from Nate Boyer and his team and saying, hey, let's do that with our sales force, I think that's going to rock, right, if you're used to being a high performing individual, right, you can. I think you'll do well, yeah.
Speaker 1:Dude this whole thing it's just a.
Speaker 1:It makes. It makes complete sense why it's you doing this. It's a direct representation of who you are, man. It's bold, unique, completely different than anything like it's it's you. You're the product dude, a hundred fucking percent. Anybody that just looks at the templated, cookie cutter idea of what t should be, it's not this. And anybody looks at a cookie cutter, templated idea of what a veteran transitioning should be, it's fucking not you. It is not you.
Speaker 1:If you're not out, if you don't want to get the most out of fucking life, if you don't want to go out there and do great adventures, if you're just standing idle, life's going to pass you by. You're not going to have opportunities to go to fucking Scotland and run an adventure race with Nate Boyer yeah. If that's not what you want in life, then continue drinking your Louisiana sweet tea with 37 scoops of fucking sugar in it. If you want to drink something that's clean, fresh and just tastes amazing and it's refreshing because you're going to go do something hard in a few hours, this is the product for you, man. I think that's exactly it. If you want to live and do something and you want to put good stuff in your body, fkt, that's yeah our tagline.
Speaker 2:Our motto is um and this comes from megan, one of our, one of our friends and business advisors. Megan, she runs a, an accelerator fund out of new orleans is life is an endurance sport. And just like dude, like no matter if you're, if you're the young stud training first election, right, or if you're the, the mom holding down two jobs because the dad has another, a crazy idea he's in the office until one, a one in the morning, like click clacking on his computer, and you're like someone has to fucking raise these children. You know, like that's. That's the same person to me, right? You're an investment maker.
Speaker 2:We're going over a big deal. Like dude you're, but you're training for American or ultra like dog, your, your life is getting chewed up, right, and it's hard. Right, selections are hard, life is hard. So, yeah, if, if we can make something that can replace one of your drinking instances. Or you're needing caffeine, you want something tastes delicious. You know you're looking for clean ingredients. You know everything on there is brewed tea, organic lemon or lemon juice. Like it's good. It's, it's good stuff, and I think our vision for it is to build an entire better for you, like line of tea. So instead of giving kids juice or sugar or um soda yeah, we have syrup, right, right, right, we're gonna get you know.
Speaker 2:We'll make a lower caffeine option, like sub 20 milligrams. Right, that's one of the that's the second highest thing we get requested. Everybody loves the flavors. The sweet, sweet taste is delicious right, I had that in that episode last night for dinner. The I'm drinking an og right now. Right, the og is clean crisp. It's hot as hell, right, so I'm about to go run. That's gonna sit good in my stomach and taste delicious and refreshing. It's like people are. Okay, people love the taste. More is like well, you should make a cherry flavor, you should make a lullaby. People want higher caffeine and people want a lower option. So that's what we're making. We're testing right now. Next week we'll be doing a double dosage of caffeine 146 milligrams 147?. Yeah, 170, 146 milligrams 147. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's a lot. Send me some. Yeah, I slept a total of two hours last night. I got you. I'm fucking dead. No, you look good though, kevin I can't thank you enough for coming on, man that this is something that I'm proud to fucking purchase and put in my household and my wife will allow me to do it, because she is a hundred percent a crunchy mom. You will not believe the amount of things that she has completely removed from the home. Yeah, life with a newborn or new little one is amazing, but the great thing about my wife is she's now a scientist and refuses to have so many different things in our home.
Speaker 1:But this is one thing that she's now a scientist and refuses to have so many different things in our home, but this is one thing that she's stoked about, um, so we're gonna be ordering some more again. Where can people go to get some today?
Speaker 2:yeah, um, drink, fktcom, fktea. Uh, that's our socials. Um, and again, we've kind of been dormant and and as far as like emails and social media, right, because we've been building, right, but but rocket ships built, we're doing in and we're about to end the summer, great, and just from here, man, I can't wait to come back and dude talk to you again and fuck yeah, this thing is gonna fucking explode.
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Speaker 1:Yeah, Thank y' to be able to be one of the first ones to say like hey, I knew this thing was going to blow up. Yeah, Thank you all for tuning in. We'll see you all next time. Until then, take care. Securepodcast is proudly sponsored by Titans Arms. Head over to the episode description and check out Titans Arms today.
