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Transforming Veteran Health with Hormone Therapy
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In this powerful episode of Security Halt!, we sit down with Dr. Taylor Bosley, a Green Beret and physician, to discuss the critical role of hormone health in the lives of veterans. Drawing from his unique experience as a Special Forces 18 Delta and medical professional, Taylor breaks down the impact of testosterone on mental and physical health, the growing demand for hormone replacement therapy (HRT), and how telemedicine is transforming access to care for the military community. From his personal journey through the ranks of Special Forces to building Precision Wellness Group, Taylor shares how education, proper treatment, and community support can help veterans take control of their health, improve resilience, and restore quality of life.
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Securepodcast is proudly sponsored by Titans Arms. Head over to the episode description and check out Titans Arms today. Taylor Bosley welcome to Securepodcast. How's it going, brother? Doing well? Thank you for having me. Absolutely, man.
Speaker 1:It is amazing to have a representative from our warrior tribe leading the charge when it comes to taking care of our health, specifically our 18 Deltas. You guys are always the most rock star of our MOSs in the Green Beret world. You guys come to the team and you're immediately loved because you can deploy without an 18, bravo. You can deploy without an 18, charlie, but you can't do shit without an 18 Delta, and you guys are legendary.
Speaker 1:I mean to go through that training and then, on the backside, a lot of our 18 Deltas choose to become PAs. They choose to continue being a healer, a communicator and a sort of a connective tissue from our community into the medical field, and what you're doing with your precision wellness medical practice is frigging awesome. One thing that we don't talk about enough is endocrinology. Endo issues when we get out are one of the biggest problems that we're starting to figure. It affects all of us when we're coming on the backside and a lot of times we hyper focus on PTSD and that becomes like the overall thing, and we don't tend to figure out what's going on with our hormones, what's going on with our bodies. So today, man, I want to dive into that world and figure out how you're leading the charge to helping our brothers in this fight. But before we dive into that, what led you to become a Green Beret man?
Speaker 2:So I think, like every young man's journey, you know, you hit a point of where am I going to go next? What am I going to do? You know, for me it was two years in college and I really didn't have a purpose of what I wanted to do. Right now, this is 2005,. You know, we're in Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm in college trying to figure out what I want to do. I had a loose idea of maybe I want to be a PA or something, I don't know, but I wasn't a good student. I wasn't a good student as far as, like, I didn't have the discipline to study. I think a young man needs like a direction to go and something to motivate him to go there. So your brain isn't even formed yet at that point. So I'm just, you know, enjoying college, doing the thing. And then I realized one day like I have to do something with my life.
Speaker 2:I worked at this bar in college and I started out there like as a bouncer and then became a bartender. You know, typical, like young man stuffigans. So I worked with a lot of guys who had been g-wag guys, you know, initial invasion to iraq. Initial invasion to afghanistan. You know, I had buddy who was like a ranger, third ranger bat that like jumped into afghanistan, was like the 300 people in afghanistan with, with uh, tier one doing like there are only 300 americans there doing hits in the kabul, like right after a month after 9-11. You know so just amazing guys. You know there was super cool stories. I had a buddy who was a marine. That was like initial evasion in iraq and like he was telling me how they're riding in their up armored vehicle. People were like, you know, just shitting their pants, you know, like literally like shitting their pants, like scared, crying. You know, like just stories. And these are the guys I worked with all the time and I just looked up to them. Like I felt like so insignificant compared to these guys because they were just have done such amazing things and they're like still 20 years old, you know. It's just so wild. And so I really looked up to those guys a lot and I had never really thought about joining the military.
Speaker 2:My dad was a Vietnam vet and he was always like don't do it, you know, don't go in there, you don't want to experience what I experienced and that kind of thing. So I was always like I never considered it, but then I was like I got to do something, like I'm not a good student, I'm never going to, you know, do this on my own. So I decided like you know what, screw it, I'm going to join, but I want to do something medical and I want to do something like elite, you know. And so I actually there was some air force guy that I knew and he was like you should be a PJ, bro. And so I was like, okay, let me go talk to a recruiter. So I go there and the guy's like, um, he's like yeah, there's only like 300 spots man in the whole net United States, so you're going to have to like six month wait. I was like like, screw that.
Speaker 2:So anyway, I got hooked up with a recruiter for for the army and I was, uh, I was talking to him about it and we he was like, yeah, you could be a special forces medic where you could still be like a shooter and still do medicine and do that. I was like, okay, that sounds like a cool thing. I had no idea what I was getting into. You know, I don't think many people do, no, because I didn't know any like green berets, you know, I didn't know anybody like doing that job. So I was like, okay, so how long is it going to take to uh get me from civilian to green berets? Like oh no, it won't be that long, you know.
Speaker 1:Now it's like three years you know, looking back, they really sold it. Now, man, it's like five, six months it was like prime recruiting time.
Speaker 2:You know it's like hook, line and sinker. You know you'll see the world, all that stuff, stuff. So you know, fell for it, glad I did. But yeah, that's how I ended up here. Just long, long road, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it absolutely is. I've had some friends that were 18 x-rays that went to the Delta pipeline and there's nothing wrong being 18 x-ray, it's for everybody. If you have the calling, you go for it. You were prior. You know prior military experience. You're in a conventional unit before you've got to frame a reference for what it is to do soldier tasks. You know what to do and I remember when I paired up we got back. You know you're going into Robin Sage and you're getting paired up with your 18 Deltas and this young kid was shit hot on his medical stuff. Just amazing. But he literally forgot every bit of tactical know-how. Like just fucking atrocious, just oh yeah I know it's hard to be good at both.
Speaker 1:Right, you gotta. You gotta get on a team, get those reps in, because my guy, my guy was struggling. It was one of those where it's just like j Jesus, man, we jump into the exercise tomorrow. Just be a good, right rifleman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know it's hard man. It's hard to do both I guess, but yeah, it's rough man. Some guys just don't get it.
Speaker 1:No, but it's a great thing about getting on the team. You learn You're paired up with everybody, and that's where you. You learn you're you're paired up with everybody, and that's that's where you, you truly learn how to do your job.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it never ends. Yeah, especially I had a really good senior medic who, like, dialed me in.
Speaker 1:You know that was my saving grace so you get to be in a green beret. You do that for a while. What did you fall in love with? The idea of continuing education and really diving into this field and specializing in this and specifically in hormones, and trying to like, really understand this problem set yeah, um, I, you know, when I got back, uh, from afghanistan, I I was like, okay, what do I want to do?
Speaker 2:I want to be. I had, like I think, 40 college credits. At that point I was like, am I gonna be a doc or a pa? And I I, just after working by myself in afghanistan just doing pediatric mass casualties and all kinds of like people blown in half, like just traumatic wild things um, I was like I'm gonna go be a physician and luckily my wife was on board with it. But I got married three weeks before I left for afghanistan, by the way. Shit, yeah, standard, right. So I was like just happy she was there when I got back and my bank account wasn't cleaned out, you know. But no, she's awesome and she's been through. Uh, she actually says she'd rather go through a deployment than go through med school. So that was, uh, she's like at least I know you're gone and like I can just do my own thing. But when you're here you're more of like a you know, you're more of a problem. So it's, the women are tough with it. But anyway, I, um, we went through that. So I got back from Afghanistan. We're talking 11, 10 is like 10 or 11 years of training. After that, right Cause, I had to finish my bachelor's degree, um, and then you have to do extra classes for pre-med, and then I did four years of medical school, three years of residency, so it spit me out of that, um, and what is I? I was 38 years old at that point and 37.
Speaker 2:And then we decided to to move up to North Carolina, to Southern Pines area, because my both of my brother and brother-in-law's are Green Berets. And so me just tell you this man I don't know if there's any more out there like this, but this is a pretty wild thing so both brother-in-laws, 10th group guys, one 18, charlie, one 18, delta and there's four girls in her family, right, so three of us are already married to the daughters. There's four girls. The last one, right now, the youngest one, is dating a first group guy and she's about to go out there. He about to go out there, he's 18, charlie, he just he's. So four green berets married to four, the only four daughters. And there's there's six kids, um, and four girls. So there's, they're all married to green berets. I always tell everybody it's daddy issues, you know, that's what made them, yeah how does dad feel about this?
Speaker 1:he's like, is he?
Speaker 2:in counseling. He's a mormon guy. Yeah, he's just like I don't. I don't think he has a choice. He's a cool dude, though no we like him a lot.
Speaker 1:He's less that man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's good dude no, it's cool, but anyway, I got sidetracked I got sidetracked, but oh, this is amazing, this is perfect dude.
Speaker 1:Like family reunions have got to be awesome man you don't even know it's so cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like the other side of the family wanted to like challenge us in paintball or something. One time I was like let's do this man prepare to die. So, uh, we, um, yeah. So anyway, I get done. I'm in working as a full-time er doctor. Like there was like this partner. I'm in this group up here in like pinehurst area by fort bragg. We I'm going to like push, busting my ass trying to make partner and do this, working a ton of hours.
Speaker 2:And I all of a sudden and and I heard I knew about operator syndrome, I knew about the head injuries and I thought like I could just power through it. It's not going to be me, I don't need that. You know that's, that's not me. But then all of a sudden, like I had this crash of I needed. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't work out anymore because I felt like I couldn't gain muscle, I couldn't lose fat. There was all this like I don't know. I was irritable all the time, which was very unlike me, you know, like naturally.
Speaker 2:And my wife is like what's going on with you? There's something wrong. I'm like I'm good, and when you are a doctor or you are a PA or something. I think you think it's never going to happen to you because you're used to seeing it so much. And you're like I know the signs, like I know the stuff, like it's not me, yeah, I'm, I'm a tougher than that, like that's not for me. So I go to the va and like my testosterone level. You know, for example, my total was like 500 and the guy was like look, you're good, bro. Like the range is like 300 to 1100. Yeah, I'm like I don't feel good man, like there's something wrong so treat the patient, not the fucking lab results.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:I talk about that, dude, you should be my spokesperson, cause I in my clinic I talk about that all the time. And then it's like so there was this like pellet provider in town and he a bunch of my buddies went there, a bunch of military guys did, and so I just went there and I was like these are my problems. Boom, boom, boom and did all the like. I think I had nine out of the 10 symptoms on the checklist and you know I was like I have nothing left to lose at this point. Like just I can't even do my job. I can't fake, you know. So he went ahead and put them in there and put the pellets in. It was like upper, outer butt cheek, you know, had a dimmer switch and you just like turn that dimmer switch on and it started getting brighter and like things got brighter. My mood was better, like I finally sleep. My workouts were awesome. Like I felt like I did when I joined the army, you know, like when you could just like stay up all night, you know, hang out with the guys all night and then never sleep, go do PT in the morning, like carry on with your day. You know I just had all this energy, I could gain muscle again, and this wasn't overnight Like I'm not saying like this is, you know, a hundred percent guaranteed results. But over that year, I think, cause I was, I was eating healthier, I was trying to sleep more, I was being more like consistent and like intentional about being healthy, as I did that I just started noticing better and better and better, and I think it was that first year that just became my new baseline and I was like this is awesome. And my wife had got on hormones at some point. She had some bad postpartum and stuff with one of my kids and so she got on hormones too and like just testosterone, and I think we put her on thyroid a little bit. But she started doing so much better too and she was like man, this is what we got to focus on, like this is really helping people, especially like all we do is hang out with SF guys. You know like that's that's our community. So like my, my daughter's soccer coach is, like you know, sephardic instructor. You do it's like it's cool, it's such a cool community, I know. So it's it's like, yeah, let's help these guys and because I see them and some of them are on testosterone. Let's help them. So we started doing that and then we opened our. We opened our doors a year and a half ago and started helping veterans. Um, sf guys you know most mostly it's it's is military guys, obviously, because this town but we have a bunch of civilians.
Speaker 2:And then it was like I fixed the, the operator. He started feeling better and then it would, he would, his wife would show up and be like hey, he's doing so much better, like can you fix me too? And I like, yeah, of course. So fast forward a year and a half, we just hit 550 patients and we're literally like 49% female right now. So as a male only provider, like I was like I can't.
Speaker 2:I'm so happy these women like trust me, you know to to do their stuff, because women women don't want to talk to a man about their stuff. You know it's and I get it. It's just like the SF guys come to me and they're like they'll come over from another practice and they're like I ain't talking to no woman nurse practitioner about my stuff. You know like, and I get it too. I had a woman tell me she goes, she goes you. It's like telling a mechanic about your car troubles that doesn't have a car Like you. He can't relate, you know, and I was like I totally get it. So to combat that I've hired a female nurse practitioner. Who's coming on, she has. She just started last week. She has eight years of experience doing functional medicine, and all this she's married to an SF guy, fifth group sergeant, major, you know like cool, super cool woman, um, so she's coming to help me out so I can handle that side of it.
Speaker 1:So pretty cool stuff yeah, it's important to understand that the hormones and the issues that we're experiencing isn't just relegated to the men like this. This more than likely is affecting your wife at home, your spouse, your significant other, like when you have a kid. That's a, that's a big toll. Your hormone, your hormonal like balance, affects you like throughout the you know the entire pregnancy and then afterwards, like I've seen it with my wife, like even before we had a kid together, my wife dealt with issues and doctors aren't always intuitive enough to run the test or want to run a test. There was like a million different prescriptions, soapsaps and pills before finally, some doctor was like, hey, let's check your hormones out, let's figure out what's going on, and it's just like fuck. For like several years and finally one doctor was willing to say like, hey, let's do labs, let's take a look at this, see where your hormones are at. And it seems like it's always put on the back burner for providers when you're in the military.
Speaker 1:And the one thing that's always frustrating you talked about a little bit was you're in the normal range. You're in a normal range, you're fine. What does that mean to the guy on the team room that's just turned 35? He's been a high performer his entire military career several deployments, he's got some aches, he's had some surgeries, and now he's starting to feel a little bit on the downslope. He can't do the normal run times he used to, he can't put up the weight that he used to, and he finally gets checked out.
Speaker 1:They're like oh no, your testosterone is normal. So he's like, oh fuck, then the weight comes on. Then you're not feeling, you're feeling self-conscious, you can't get back to feeling your best and it's like but everything that you're being told is you're fine, you're normal range, like. What does that actually mean, though? What does the actual what is the? What are the test results actually mean? That's one of the things I want to frigging the, you know, kill that myth of you're in a normal range, you're fine, like no there, you're in a normal range, you're fine, like no, there's a big difference.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, you're exactly right, you're you're describing like the quintessential sf guy, right? Or any kind of soft dude. Yeah, they get to that 35, 30 and I get them early and earlier now, which they're saying is like because we're exposed in utero to all these plastics and things and hormones. So I was hearing about that, yeah, I've been reading about that. It's wild so, and it could be the stuff they spray on your crops, it could be the plastic in your water bottle, who knows?
Speaker 2:Some of us are more sensitive to it than others, but there is a fact that our grandfathers probably had a testosterone in their 80s of 1000, you know of total testosterone and it keeps going down and down because if you look at the historically, lab core keeps shifting their total testosterone range lower and lower, really, yes, so a couple of years ago it used to be a lot higher and it depends on the lab too. So I use access labs in my office, but I use lab coordination wide for my my patients. I'm licensed in 30 States, so I use. I have patients all over the country, but their reference range keeps getting lower and lower Every couple of years you'll see.
Speaker 2:But a reference range is not normal and when you look at a lab it's not a normal range. A reference interval means that 98% of the men in your age group that LabCorp tests will fall between that left and right limit, that LabCorp tests will fall between that left and right limit. Okay, so the left and right limit for LabCorp right now for a guy in his mid thirties is typically like 280 to like 950, somewhere around there, and it changes with age. It's kind of like the PT test right In the army it changes with age. What it is is just, you know, you don't want to be on the lower end of that range. If we could and total testosterone, I could get into that too. That's not really a good measure of like where you are.
Speaker 1:Let's do it, let's dive into it, break it all down for us, no, you got it.
Speaker 2:So total testosterone is it's a good ballpark, okay, but it's a big range, like. So for my labs, for Access Labs, it's 300 to 1100. That's a huge range, okay, and you're not normal. That doesn't mean normal. A reference interval just means where the average is Okay. Now, let's say I'm me personally. I'm 40 years old, okay, uh, be 41 next week.
Speaker 2:I am my, like I, when I look at my range of my labs, that's comparing me to every 40 year old, every 40 year old in my age group that access labs does labs on. Okay, let's talk about that population. That's everybody at Walmart, right? So that's, that is, 50% of them are going to be overweight, 50% or 25% of them are obese. You know these are a sickly unhealthy population, so I do not want to be compared to that.
Speaker 2:So if you were to draw, like, let's say, a curve for me, like this is 300 and this is 1100, and you drew a curve, and then we broke that down into thirds, right, I want to be on that upper third over here, on that side. Okay, that's where I want my testosterone over there. I don't want to bring it higher in the two thousands, right, cause that's where bodybuilders are and that's where we're going to get a lot of estrogen side effects and things like that. I just want to be on the higher end of normal. Now. That's labs in general.
Speaker 2:Okay With anybody. Total testosterone is a poor measure of where your testosterone should be. It's a good ballpark, I acknowledge it. I have it on my labs. For women. I'm going to stop ordering it altogether because women just hyper-focus on on it and their doctors mainly are the ones that are like oh my god, you have her in the man level and I'm like, yeah, these women like, first of all she's squatting 550 yeah, right, I know I had a woman do that because she was taking peptides that her greenberry husband was giving her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, and I want to dive into peptides later. We got you dude, I got you, yeah.
Speaker 2:So anyway, I got you. Yeah. So, anyway, the total testosterone is a big range. Okay, so you can't be like every man should be 900. That's BS. Like I don't feel good unless I'm 1200. You know, like I need to be on the higher end of that.
Speaker 2:The reason being is you have two different variables. I wish I had like a way to draw this, but there's free testosterone and there's total testosterone free testosterone, so. And there's there's also a protein called sexual and binding globulin, and this is a protein that's made in your liver and it floats around your bloodstream. And let's say I injected you right now in the leg with testosterone and it goes into your bloodstream. Sexual and binding globulin is that protein that will bind up typically 90% of your testosterone. Okay Now, the total testosterone is the sum of the bound and the free. Okay, the free testosterone is about the 10% that's floating around, hitting the receptors, turning everything on. It's making that cell do one of two things Usually send a signal or make a protein, and that's what testosterone does. The receptors are all over your body. So, when it comes down to like what's more specific, free testosterone will correlate more with your symptoms. Okay, if you were like Taylor. You have one lab to figure this guy out. He has all these problems, you know, and you have to figure out his testosterone free testosterone it's. I would choose that a hundred percent because it correlates more with your symptoms.
Speaker 2:Now, some people make a lot more sexual and body globulin than others. Okay, now we could pull your labs and we could pull mine. Your sexual and body globulin could be 30. Mine could be 80. You know, mine is around 80. So you're a cheap date. When it comes to testosterone, you don't need a lot, because I don't. You're not going to bind much up when I inject it into you, when you inject it into your bloodstream, you're not going to bind much up. The remainder will end up free and that's floating around, hitting the cells, turning everything on. For me, I bind up a ton, so I need a little bit higher dose than you do. See, there's a little bit of science that goes into this. Right, there's a little bit of like. We have to do adjustments, and that's like when I have you. If I had you as my patient, we would check in every once in a while.
Speaker 1:We would's just, it's not how it is and I want to pause right there and speak to you directly, to the audience. If you want to get checked out and you have questions and you want to know where your hormones are at, go to a doctor, go see a provider and get lab done. Get your labs done monthly. Make sure you're being supervised. Don't just go to an unregulated source and get testosterone. You're not going to get the results you're thinking of. You have to be informed. Go see a doctor, have your labs done, have this be prescribed to you and do it the right way. Just want to throw that out there. There's been so many times I've talked to people and they've gone to these.
Speaker 1:If you Google testosterone, chances are you'll get an ad for it on Instagram from these providers, suppliers, that will send it to you with no blood work, with nothing. We'll just send it to you. That's not an appropriate way to get this shit. An appropriate way to do it is to reach out to Dr Bosley, have him run your labs and then bring you on as their patient and then you can get the right dose, the right recommended regimen and actually be headed on the right path If you seek out testosterone treatment from one of these ads on Instagram, like some of my friends have done. You're going to end up hurting yourself more often than not. It's not the appropriate dose, it's not the right stuff. Please be informed. Go to a doctor, get your labs and really know the truth. Once you're informed, it's you know. It's like GI Joe, no one's have to battle. All right back to Dr Bosley.
Speaker 2:Sorry, cool. No, thanks for that plug, man. Yeah, yeah, you, you nailed it, so it's perfect. And I'd like to caveat what you said as far as find a doctor Most doctors don't know how to do this.
Speaker 2:That's just the fact of this. Okay, we were not trained in medical school. I was not trained in residency. I mean, I'm an ER doctor right, I can. If your thyroid is super high and you're like on the verge of death, right, I can help you. If it's very low, I can help you. But like, what about us in the middle that want to be dialed up? That's, that's not tough, right? And so I had to go do a fellowship that took me most of a year to learn how to do this in integrative medicine, and I've taken advanced bioidentical hormone replacement courses. I'm doing a peptide certification right now.
Speaker 2:So there's a lot of extra learning that doctors have to do. Is your doctor willing to put in the effort to do it? You know that's the biggest thing. There are self-proclaimed experts. I see housewives on Instagram prescribing peptides to people that are used for you know, it's so wild man, I don't even know. It makes me so grossed out. This is like what medicine is now. But you know, and I get people on the weirdest stuff Back to your like people when you Google it right. So these big ones are going to come up. I'm not going to mention them, but there are some people who there's a lot of these guys around, especially veterans and I'll get them. You know they'll come to me. It's basically a sales tactic, so they'll get you on there and they're all on like the same thing.
Speaker 2:So they're on anastrozole, like right away, or Ramidex is the other name for it, which is estrogen blocker, and you're like you didn't even check an estrogen on this guy. Why are you putting my estrogen blocker? You know he needs that to think, he needs that to have erections, he needs that to not have a heart attack. So why are we? Yeah, exactly, why are we taking away the man's estrogen if we don't even know if it's a problem? So you're, you're dealing with that. And then they're also on Clomid and are in Clomiphene, which I see a Tamifine is what we call a CIRM. It goes up and blocks your estrogen receptor in your brain, tricks your brain into making more testosterone and make sperm. So it puts people on that when they want to still maintain fertility.
Speaker 2:You know, guys like us we've had our kids, like I'm snipped, I'm not having any more kids, I don't take that stuff because I don't need it. But they put every man on it Like just blanket you know, which is crazy. I think it's like an upselling tactic. And then you have this guy who checks in with you, kind of like I don't know what you call the patient navigator or something who would call you and say and he's not even a medical guy, he's a gym bro or whoever and he says listen, man, you need to be on this If you want to be hard, like you're going to be on a you know BPC one, five, seven and TV 500 and all these like peptides which you know, and then they'll be like okay, and that's gonna be like $600 for that and they just upcharge everything.
Speaker 2:You need to be on a GLP-1. You need to microdose a GLP-1, because that's what bodybuilders do. It's just like who comes up with this stuff and who's letting them like? I've had a friend who told me he works for one of those places and he said that these people are just like adding things on his license, like ordering things for patients. These are non-medical people and I'm like how in the hell is this allowed? You know, like there's no regulation here, One.
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Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, and what kind of long-term damage are you doing these poor guys Like? And they don't even know what's going on. So, as far as education, what you said, so what would set us apart from most people is I spend an hour, an hour with you when we first meet. Sometimes you don't need, some guys are already on shots and they already have pretty solid, like foundational knowledge, so we don't have to spend that long. But I offer you an hour and I give you an hour because I need to dig into your medical history.
Speaker 2:There's some things you didn't write on that paper that I need to ask you about that, that you may have not told me or put on there, and we need to dig into that, make sure you're safe to go on it. And then I'm going to go through your labs with you in very good detail and explain everything to you. I will draw you pictures and graphs and things to help you understand why we're doing this and what direction we're going, and then we're going to go over the risks and benefits of it. Okay, so you don't end up five years from now and then you can't have kids, because no one ever told you that testosterone turns your sperm off. I have guys, unfortunately in their 20s, who've already came to me on testosterone and no one ever told them that they're trying to have a kid and can't figure out why Sad.
Speaker 1:We have to be able to read the research on our own. Read the research on our own. That's one of the things that we have to. We have to overcome this idea that we're going to walk in and the doctor's going to know everything and they're just going to magically prescribe the right thing and the magic's going to work. There's nothing wrong with sitting down and doing some real research. It's easy.
Speaker 1:Google Scholar, look this up. You can find out information about the studies specifically for your job in the military and how it's affecting your entire whole health. The data's out there. You just have to be a little proactive. Do some research, not be so fucking lazy. Go to the doctor's office with the information and be like hey, this is what I'm dealing with, these are my symptoms, this is what I'm going through. Hey, I was also a Green Beret. How many deployments I've been through. There's all the symptoms that I have, the diagnosis I have. I would like to talk to you today about doing this, and if you're not going to a specialist, then understand that you're probably not going to get the best care and the best information. That's why you have to go.
Speaker 1:Seek doctors and providers that have that. It'll literally say on there. If you Google them what their focus is Like. When you go to precision wellness, it'll tell you that Dr Taylor Bosley has this background and is doing this and his wife is also in the clinic doing this. That's why it's important, man, like I talk to guys all the time because they fell victim to those scams on social media and it's like, hey, man, like you can see a provider, there's nobody near me. Well, nowadays you can find somebody that actually has licensure and is certified to work in your state via telehealth. That's a real thing. And how did you find your way into that? Because I would imagine it's not the easiest thing to go through the added hoops and hurdles to try to get certified in so many different states.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a whole nother animal man. We came to a point where our clinic was growing and we were like my wife and I were like what, what do we want this to look like? You know, because we have three kids. Like we're, not we, we, our main priority is to like be present. That's our thing. We've grinded, we have worked, we've been grinding for so many years I can't even like remember how long. You know, between three years of the q course and then deployment and then straight into 11 years of training for this. It's like been non-stop. And I'm like we need to slow the hell down and figure out a way to like work and do this but also be with the kids. So it's like this, this 1500 square foot building we're in right now we've grown out of like way. Yesterday, you know, like we, we need a new building yesterday.
Speaker 1:That's a good problem, man. Yeah, it is, it is we call it positive stress.
Speaker 2:You know it's good. Yeah, we, we work it. I work in the er one day a week still, um, just to keep it up and stuff, because it's a lot, you know it's. You don't use it, you lose it. So I do, and that's a totally different stress. You know, like that's people are dying, like little kids dying, and stuff, like that's a whole nother stress. But this is positive stress, I think it's. It's not I wouldn't call it totally healthy, but it's healthier, I think, than what I was doing. So nothing's easy, nothing's easy, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:But yeah, so we're growing and we're building a new building right now we're about to be locked in on it, which is cool down the road and we'll be. It's two levels 4,500 square feet on the bottom. We're going to 4,500 on the top. We're going to try to bring on hyperbarics and a bunch of cool stuff. Yeah, so we're actually bringing on stem cell. Next week we're getting trained in that so we have the only fda approved umbilical stem cell in the entire nation. We have, you know, travis wilson from the green beret foundation now for uh project recon, which is part of cal bio. Yeah, they're both coming um, the owner of cal bio and travis will come next week and then get us spun up. We're going to be the primary east coast location for stem cell treatment, so pretty cool, cool stuff there. So we like the brick and mortar version. It's cool because patients come in and we get to see them.
Speaker 2:But then we get to a point where are we going to grow? Do we need to open a location in Fayetteville, maybe one in Wilmington, one in Tampa? I don't know, but it just seems more difficult than Destin, florida Destin, yeah, oh, trust me, we have considered that. No, I know that would be a perfect spot, but it's like it's harder to manage and way more overhead to have a bunch of brick and mortar locations to provide pretty much the same service. I mean, the downside is I can't put pellets in you. I do a lot of pellets here, hormone pellets. I can't do that over the phone, right? My only option for you is creams or shots, if we do online, and that's fine, but I'm one person, I can't be in everywhere. So I was like, how can we maintain, keep this under control and still reach the majority of people all over?
Speaker 2:The United States is the telemedicine, and after COVID it's really opened the door to that, so it's helped us be able to expand. So we chose to go the telemedicine route instead of going more brick and mortar locations and expand. So we chose to go the telemedicine route instead of going, like more brick and mortar locations, and I feel like if I'm can't be there at that brick and mortar location like I am at this one, I feel like the quality kind of goes down there. So I just I feel like I can manage everything better if we just have the mothership here in Southern pines, north Carolina, and then we have, like you know, right now I'm licensed in all the big 30 states, you know. So I'm in California, about to be in New York, I'm in Texas, I'm, you know, obviously, florida, but, um, all these big states and Alabama, I'm in Alabama, awesome, yep. So I'm in many states.
Speaker 2:We, I kind of looked at my. I talked to my other online buddies. Um, titan, titan performance was one of them and I was like where do you see, like the owner? The owner's a really, really nice guy. So we, uh, he gave me some metrics on it and and I kind of figured out where, cause he has a lot of customers, and I kind of figured out where his guys were coming from. So that's how we we figured out. But anyway, that's how we ended up with one brick and mortar location and then spread out nationwide.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. And I want to go back and tap into something pellets that I've talked to several people that say that the best is still doing injectable. But I still have friends that are paying out of pocket in the military and soft and they use the pellets because obviously, when you deploy, when you're going on J sets and C dids, you don't have time to try to bring your testosterone because, hey, we're living in a world right now where it's not being prescribed to a lot of guys that need it. So guys are going out of pocket to get their blood work done, get their labs done to figure out what their levels are and getting diagnosed, getting that prescribed to them by other providers. So they're choosing the pellets. But I'm hearing a lot of mixed reviews and misinformation. Maybe Can you break it down to us, the efficacy, how it works, and is it completely comparable with the release versus and compare it to injectable, a testosterone?
Speaker 2:I would love to. I talk about this all day long. There are three options typically for men cream, shots and pellets. Okay, different different pharmacokinetics. Pharmakokinetics think about when you shoot a bullet, right the trajectory of it. That's what the testosterone is doing inside your body, and so they all behave differently. Creams I'm going to talk about that one real quick and then we're going to knock it off the list because it's not really a good option for a lot of people.
Speaker 2:My dad, 25-year-old Vietnam veteran, lives at home, doesn't have a wife. They're living with him. He's divorced, he doesn't have a woman, so he uses creams because I don't worry about him transferring that cream to anybody else. That's the biggest thing. It's called transference and when you put a cream on specifically man, I usually have them applied to their scrotum because it absorbs better that way, and so you put it there and then your, your significant other, comes and snuggles with you. You're going to spread that to them, and they have done studies where even pulling the covers over can can spread by vapor. So it can spread to the woman, because they did that by testing her levels and they were higher. So it's really hard to keep it, to keep it from spreading. So anyway, there have been case studies where, like the dad rubs it on him and then he forgets to wash his hands and touches the child every night and to play with the child, you know, and then the child ends up with an armpit hair at four years old and then it goes away. But that's what we worry about. We worry about the transference of the cream. So I don't offer it to a lot of people. I'll ask them their home situation and you know very few people meet that criteria for it. So creams are good. Women I have a ton of women on testosterone cream because if she spreads it to her husband she's on one 10th of the dose and he's not even gonna know. He might even thank her for the little extra boost. You know, you never know. So I tell him, I say, even if he goes down there and licks it off, it's gonna be, you know, it's not gonna do a damn thing to him. So it's fine. So let's, you know, not creams off, because that's not a really good option.
Speaker 2:Now we're left with shots and pellets. So shots, tried and true, it's been around forever, it's safe. It is a synthetic testosterone is what we call it. Because in order to get that testosterone to hang out in your muscle or in your fat, depending on where you inject it you have to add something to it, now that something is called an ester chain. Now the difference between you've heard of a testosterone cypionate versus propionate, versus enanthate, those have different length of chains on them. Okay, so you have this testosterone molecule with this little tail hanging off that makes it hang out in that fat.
Speaker 2:Otherwise, if I injected you with pure testosterone liquid, it would just go. It would go into your bloodstream, be gone in a couple hours. You know it wouldn't last, so that's how we make it last a week. And if you know propionate is shorter acting, so we that has to be added to it. So it's kind of a synthetic thing and your liver has to break that down. And the same place.
Speaker 2:I could get into the weeds on this, but it does mess with your cholesterol a little bit in a bad way If you're on shots, but not you know it's. It's mostly safe, is what I'm saying. It's good as long as you dose it right. The downside of using too much testosterone is going to be too much estrogen, just like bodybuilders have that problem. Estrogen is good, but everything should be in a balance and I don't like injecting like injection.
Speaker 2:The standard dose for a man was like 200 milligrams once a week. I think that's most people like. End up on that and I think it's person dependent. It depends on your weight and at the end of the day this is a weight based medicine. I am not a big fan of injecting once a week and getting that big spike. Spike yeah, and then you're dropping it down so your testicles release about when they are testicles used to do it. It was 10 to 15 milligrams per day, typically something like that. It's a low amount, so you don't want to dump 200 milligrams of testosterone in there because your body has to deal with that Okay, it has to process it and all those things. So guys like that big spike sometimes because it gives them that big, like I feel good, and that vigor and right and that energy.
Speaker 2:But the problem is you're making a lot of estrogen at the same time and it's not good to do that. So what I typically do is take that once a week and I just chop that dose in half. So I would do like 100 twice a week and I would typically do it like every four days or something, and I'm not. This is not medical advice, like if. Obviously, if you want me to look at your stuff, I will. I will look at your labs and your weight and this is very personalized medicine, like I have guys on very different doses depending on how big they are, what their activity level is and all those things. But I recommend I like most my men are on a twice a week or every four days, so I'll do like half the dose but just do it every four days and instead of that big spike up and big and then drop is you get those two smaller spikes. Is why I like it and it keeps you up in that higher range a little bit longer. And anytime you swing hormones you're going to have side effects.
Speaker 2:And I had a buddy of mine who he works here as like part-time, he's a veteran as well, but I made it. I was like I made him, but I was like I requested to him because he'd been on pellets only and I was like do shots for me, please do it one month. I want you to do it once a week and then the next month, I want you to do it twice a week and tell me how you feel. Like what is the difference? Right, this is our own little study that we did. So the once a week. He was like you know what, like two days out from my injection, I'm really looking forward to that next injection. That was his, because you lose a little as that curve comes down.
Speaker 2:You're getting to that point where you don't have a lot of testosterone left. So maybe, let's say, you inject every sunday, friday and saturday, you're really running out of juice and so guys will notice that. Or if you do too much medicine, it's not coming down yet and you eject again. You're going to stack the doses. So that's the problem with doing it for every four days or whatever. Every guy's different. I've got to do it every four days, every three days. I've got to do it three days a week.
Speaker 2:It just depends on the person. I've got to do it once a week and love it. That's how they've been doing it and you know it. Just it's very person dependent. I just will try something and that's what good follow-up is for is let me call you, try this. Let me call you in a month, see how it's going. Let's check your levels again, see where it's at. I like to check levels the day before they inject, because I want to know what they have left in the tank. That's my, because if they're still at a thousand total testosterone the day before, then we're going to stack again on them. And then they're still at a thousand total testosterone the day before, then we're going to stack again and then they're just going to end up with this higher and higher and higher dose. And then they call me and say I have erectile dysfunction, I can't have sex, and I'm like, okay, we'll start over again.
Speaker 1:So Fuck more problems.
Speaker 2:Yeah, guys have two issues. They, you know it's like women will know if, like, a hair is out of place. The guys are like, if I can't work out and I can't have sex, like I can't live, you know, and but nothing else bothers them. They're like I lost my leg, I don't care, you know like whatever, that is 100% the man.
Speaker 1:Even like if you overdo it, guys like oh man, I really crushed in the gym. I don't feel so good. Take, take a day off. Like oh man, I feel better now. Like first thing I want to do is like go right back to the gym, that's all we care. As we get older, like the only thing that really matters is can I perform in the bedroom? I'm gonna continue working out. If I gotta take a day off like oh my god, my world's over yeah, exactly it's, it's.
Speaker 2:It's easy to keep the guys on on par like that. Those are the two main things, but anyway, like you're dealing with the shots, the up down, it's really good for like bodybuilders who want to dial in their levels and keep them. They'll do it more frequently but they'll keep those little like those little spikes all the time to keep their levels dialed perfect. And they do labs. I have a couple of patients that are bodybuilders and they're all over their labs all the time. They're coming in here like every couple of weeks getting their labs done just to try to dial it in. You can do that Now.
Speaker 2:Pellets I put a pellet in. What that is is, think about like a Tic Tac, like something the size of a Tic Tac, and it slowly releases. My pellets release about 1.7 milligrams of testosterone per pellet per day. For a guy your size you would probably get I don't know 11, 12 pellets. Okay, I've had eight pellets, nine pellets, 10 pellets. I just been trying to find my dose. I'm kind of at a sweet spot now, but it releases a little bit of testosterone all day.
Speaker 2:It's where we put them is in the love handle on the men. A lot of places will put them in the butt cheek. I don't like that. I've been a patient of pellets for a long time and I had my butt cheeks. It just hurts really bad when they put it back there. We don't have a men, don't have a lot of fat women all day. We'll put them back there and women get like one grain of rice and we get like 10 or 12 tic tacs. So it's it's. It's one time in their life where the women get off easy. You know they gotta have the kids. They gotta do. I got that space. I got that space for that. I know some guys have both. You know, if you gotta, if you gotta donk a donk and you have it right. So you never know.
Speaker 1:I got a head kill situation back here.
Speaker 2:Dog, yeah, I know, are you going to go for either. You got a lot of real estate, denny. Either way, it's that Latino, yeah.
Speaker 1:So love handles? I didn't know that, holy shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the thing, so the muscle think about your glute muscles. You use them everything. So if you put and we don't have a lot of fat back there, so you're putting that pellet you're causing all that trauma in that tissue and then you're gonna go get up and walk around and it hurts. I remember like after I got my pellet in the first time, I was limping around the er because they're like, are you okay? And I'm like, no, uh, yeah, I'm fine. So I don't know, like tell them what I got done. But then I did this pellet training. Eventually, when I started doing this on my own, I went to this pellet training. Thank God that like does it a different way and instead of putting a bunch of pellets like clumped up together in the butt cheek, we put them in the love handle but then spread them out. Think about like trained cars, right? Because the more spread out they are, the better the blood flow is across the pellet. So the pellets are all because pellets might last five months in you and they might last six months in me, it just depends. Typically, men get five to six months out of them after we put them in. Put them in the love handle and the blood flows across them and pulls testosterone off of them. Okay, just like your testicles do. So the more blood flow to your testicles, the more testosterone you're going to pull off of there. Now with if you're stressed out all the time, you're laying in bed and your heart's beating real fast. If you're you're you're a triathlete and you're training all the time, more cardiac output, more blood flow across that pellet, the quicker you're going to lick your lollipop, right, you're going to pull off that testosterone. You'll burn through them faster. So, my power lifter guys, I'll pellet them, probably a couple of weeks before I'll pellet everybody else, because they'll burn through them faster and they know that. So we just schedule their pellet sooner. It's it just depends on the person. I have guys who are couch potatoes and they'll get eight months out of them. You know, it is what it is. It's person dependent and we really go a lot off symptoms.
Speaker 2:I don't really the labs guide us. I always say, like the labs, this is an art and a science. The art is the patient and how they feel. The science is what are the labs? And we try to make those things mesh to try to get a good idea of what's going on and then guide the treatment. So the pellets are cool because you put them in there and you get this steady state right when you would inject testosterone once a week, up down, right, it's going to be like that With pellets. It's this nice smooth curve that goes like this and then slowly drops off. So the difference is you're doing that up and down. That up and down is occurring over half a year instead of one week, which is kind of cool because you're getting that nice steady curve.
Speaker 2:Now do I feel my pellets drop off at around five months? Yes, I do the way. I know that is because I don't feel like going to the gym. I usually get that, like I explained, like testosterone gives you vigor and vigor is like I'm gonna get up and kick today's ass kind of feeling, whereas, like you, didn't have that when your testosterone was low and I dread I'll dread the gym, but oh, I don't want to go today. Whereas, like today, I woke up and, you know, ran sprints, I felt good. You know I got my pellet put in two weeks ago. So, um, I'm feeling good but it does drop off, but it's not like when you're on shots and it just overnight, like yesterday I felt good and today I don't. It's like over two weeks or so you'll feel it drop. So you get this beautiful nice curve that goes up. I do labs at the peak and I check what the labs are there and then I do labs at the trough and I get between those two pieces of data I can pretty much figure out what your dose is and what your interval is.
Speaker 2:As far as your uh pellets, um, pretty easy. Like you said, the military guys awesome for deployments, because most soft guys don't deploy longer than five months. So you end up popping them in there. You know I they put them in. I just need a couple days of rest, um, after I put it in there so they don't end up getting infected, and then they're good to go. Um, I mean, I have I'm working with a guy right now who's um that's deploying for a long time and we're trying to figure out, like, how we're going to do pellets and then shots and we're trying to like yeah, I think I'm along, so every guy's in a different situation. So that's, that's how it goes. But yeah, it's, they all have their pros and cons. There's no perfect way to replace testosterone and we haven't even got into, like in clomiphene and hcg and those kind of things like that, though that'll just stimulate your body to make more. That's always an option too. But as far as testosterone replacement like we're going to take, over the system, that's, I need shots and pellets.
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Speaker 2:We don't do TRICARE, so you can bill TRICARE with, like you can submit it yourself, but I don't do insurance at all. The reason being is, if I did insurance, it would limit my ability to take care of patients. You might think that that sounds opposite, but it's not. We've tried to use insurance before, but then they want to control what we charge and what they reimbursed. And then I like imagine, like I submit all this stuff to them and then they pay like 70% of it. You know, like how am I going to pay a staff? Like it's, yeah, it doesn't make sense. So we offer a fair price. I mean to be on testosterone with us and this is today, which is August 15th, and it could change but it's 150 bucks a month, right, really. Yeah, that's it, holy shit. Yeah, you pay for the consultation upfront, which is an hour of my time, right, and I'll spend with you or my provider $200, which is a fair rate and then from then on it's 150 bucks a month.
Speaker 2:That testosterone shows up to your door. It's a set up. It's like on auto repeat, unless you change your dose and you get your testosterone vial to your door, your syringes, your needles. That includes and limited access to me. So if you have a question at any time, you can call and ask. Right, we can get on the schedule and ask me. You can send the chat we have a secure chat through our EHR and it's just and then we usually talk to you about four times a year. We'll do labs, typically twice a year, maybe three times a year. It depends on if you're new with testosterone we'll do it more frequently, but that's typically how it goes and we like to stay on top of it. But I mean, that's a cheap price to pay to get it done. Otherwise, what are your other options? You go to your primary care doctor and they put you on some crazy dose where you're injecting like once every two weeks.
Speaker 2:you know exactly yeah yeah, you've seen that the army docs do that. They'll put you on. And they do put you on like 100 milligrams. The guy's like 225 and they'll put them on 100 milligrams every two weeks. I'm like, do you understand? You spend 50 percent of your life with no testosterone. That gets gone after a week. Or you go do pellets on on base and they're putting in these pellets that are like a quarter of the dose, they and they only last you like a couple months, but they're free. So guys do them. And I had one guy that formed like a capsule around his pellets but they didn't absorb and then all of a sudden I put pellets in him and then those pellets, that capsule like bust, and then it's called a seroma, it forms around it and then he has levels like skyrocketed because of that. Yeah, it was wild. And so he's like I'm never going back there. I'm like, yeah, I don't, you know, because it's free probably instantly transforms into hulk hogan in his prime right.
Speaker 2:Right, I was like because we pulled his labs around that and he's like, yeah, I felt a little different. I could tell I was like, yeah, your testosterone's 2000 dude, so yeah it's the best prs of his life oh yeah, he was cautioning it, he was crushing in the gym. He was like that is a.
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Speaker 1:Oftentimes, when we're dealing with depression, when we're dealing with feeling like we're just absolutely dog shit. Nothing's good in our life that's directly connected to our testosterone level in men 100%. When I finally started getting help, I realized like oh shit, like this is impacting my mood, this is impacting the way I think, like this is actual clarity. You don't have to be an SSRI for the rest of your life. You need to take action, you need to be informed. Do the research, ask your providers to run labs, ask to receive a referral to somebody like Dr Bosley, or just go see him yourself. 150 bucks a month that's more than the fair fucking price, in my opinion. So please take advantage of this, don't wait. Yeah, no.
Speaker 2:I appreciate that. Yeah, there's a lot of gray area out here in this industry and it's a. There's a lot of gray area out here in this industry and it's unfortunately there's a lot of people taking advantage of people who are in that situation and it's just, it's sad. I know you don't have to charge people a thousand dollars a month to treat their testosterone, you know, but there are people out there doing it and it's just crazy. So I don't know. I think that's the difference between me being a physician and the owner than being just like a business person owning it, which a lot of people these places are. They're just like how much money can we crank out of these guys? How many more patients Like it's about the numbers, you know and that's hope have lost the ability to see a?
Speaker 1:brighter and better tomorrow. They're willing to pay out whatever they can to get help, and I think there's something to be said about somebody from our community that's willing to step in, get involved and do this job. Man, I think that speaks volumes and, yeah, just happy to have you on the show today, proud to support you guys. Like I said again, if you're listening, pause, go to episode description, click the links there. Where can we find you on Instagram and Facebook?
Speaker 2:So Instagram we are. Our Instagram connects to our Facebook, but Instagram would just be precision wellness group is with the handle on it and they can go on there and find it. We're working on posting more. I'm really looking at posting some educational stuff on there. I want to start a YouTube channel so guys can go and get like real evidence-based in education, not just some anecdotal Instagram influencer, you know, which has become the norm. It's very sad, but yeah, they could go go to our Instagram. We're going to start posting some more educational stuff there soon. Yeah, it's, it's good.
Speaker 1:Just try to do it all. Hell, yeah, man. Yeah, that's a lot, man, it's a lot. The content world is a. It's a fucking beast. Yeah, exactly that could be my full-time job. You know, fuck, I wake up having to go directly to a computer to fucking make sure my shit posting and uh, but you know what it's? It's when I'm able to post good content, like the stuff that I do for the special forces foundation another shameless plug. If your green brain need help, check out special force foundation.
Speaker 1:If you like the memes, if you like the infographics and everything that I'm doing with the Know the Enemy and Kill the Myth segments I'm doing on there, know that all that information is coming from somebody that has gone through it, lived it and is willing to do the research, willing to have individuals such as Dr Bosley on here to talk about this stuff, because you need to be informed. Nobody else is going to come. Look, you're in the middle of a firefight. There's no QRF coming, so you have to be able to inform yourself with the information. So go to Precision Wellness Group online, check them out and, yeah, become one of their next customers and get to the better. Get to start feeling better about yourself living better.
Speaker 1:Dr Bosley, thank you for being here today. Thank you for sitting down with us and breaking some of these myths. I really appreciate it. And to everybody tuning in, thank you for being here. Thank you for giving us some of your time and we'll see you all next time. Until then, take care. Securepodcast is proudly sponsored by Titan's Arms. Head over to the episode description and check out Titan's Arms today.
