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20 Mountains 200 Miles: Raising Awareness for Veteran Suicide

Deny Caballero Season 7 Episode 308

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What do ultra-marathons, whale encounters, biblical conspiracy theories, and ‘Over the Top’ have in common? They all collide in this wildly entertaining and deeply meaningful episode of Security Halt!

Join host Deny Caballero and special guest Liam Cogan as they take you on a thought-provoking and humorous journey through the world of veteran mental health, survival challenges, and endurance sports. This episode blends dark comedy and heartfelt advocacy as the duo recounts their preparation for an extreme endurance event designed to raise awareness for veteran suicide prevention.

From bear attacks and deep-sea diving fears to absurd Adult Swim nostalgia, celebrity satire, and the gritty truth of military service, the conversation is as unpredictable as it is powerful. They explore the emotional and physical toll veterans face, reflect on historic expeditions like Lewis and Clark and the Donner Party, and examine body image and masculinity within fitness culture.

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Chapters

 00:00 Introduction to the Challenge

03:11 Veteran Awareness and Support

06:03 Training for the Challenge

08:59 Reflections on Military Service and History

11:47 Cultural Commentary and Humor

14:49 The Role of Media and Celebrity in Events

17:52 Final Thoughts and Future Aspirations

24:54 Nostalgic Comedy and Adult Swim Classics

27:20 Conspiracy Theories and Biblical Stories

29:14 Diving Fears and Whale Encounters

32:30 Bear Encounters and Survival Stories

37:04 The Revenant and Real-Life Bear Attacks

42:11 Historical Expeditions and the Donner Party

45:51 The Harsh Realities of Survival

48:22 The Economics of Endurance Events

50:29 Training for Ultra-Endurance Challenges

53:22 Body Image and Fitness Culture

57:29 The Humor in Fitness and Movies

01:03:06 Supporting Veterans Through Endurance Events

 

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Speaker 1:

Security Hot Podcast. Let's go. The only podcast that's purpose-built from the ground up to support you Not just you, but the wider audience, everybody. Authentic, impactful and insightful conversations that serve a purpose to help you. And the quality has gone up. It's decent. It's hosted by me, danny Caballero. Get this Security Hot Misogies challenge. I want to do three a year, so I'm fucking trying to put together a team of elite athletes. I want to suck.

Speaker 2:

Team of elite athletes Together In a world where soft guys are actually elite athletes. Dude, I watched um, I'm sorry I'm sidetracking already, but I watched uh what is what we do.

Speaker 1:

It's what we do.

Speaker 2:

It's um the movie about god damn it uh, the prison off san francisco in the bay. What is that?

Speaker 1:

oh, oh, um the rock, yes, rock dude the rock.

Speaker 2:

I love that sean connery in any movie he's ever been in, just doesn't do an accent at all like you know like his character is always someone like. They always make him like a russian guy or a fucking. He's like ex-ukrainian special forces. And then he comes in.

Speaker 1:

He's like dude in highlander.

Speaker 2:

In highlander he plays a spaniard and he uses the same fucking accent, the fucking ultimate, and you're rushing it. It's like who's that the spaniard? His character's always got like some stupid ass. Like they have to write in a reason for his character every time to talk the way he does. It's just just like oh, that's the Spaniard. And then, in passing, you know they just added a paragraph and they're just like oh yeah he spends a lot of time in the IRA.

Speaker 2:

He was in the Irish Republican Army and he's Scottish and he's the Spaniard. Though he's the Spaniard, just fucking go with it. Got it, got it, got it, got it, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1:

Liam Cogan welcomes you to our podcast brother. Oh man, dude, you got some great shit going on right now. Dude, let's talk about this dude 20 mountains, 200 miles.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like the mountain part is just like to keep the name phonetically, like pleasing, but really I mean realistically. So the run is 220 miles. It's over 20 mountains, so above 20 mountains like many more, 40,000 feet of elevation gain and we're carrying 22 pounds on our backs to represent carrying the burden of 22 veteran suicides every day. 22 pounds on our backs to represent carrying the burden of 22 veteran suicides every day, trying to spread awareness. You know, keeping the American civilian population engaged in the GWAT veteran right. One thing that I end up explaining to a lot of people is, like you have kind of this great disparity between how we treated Vietnam vets and how we treat GWAT era veterans, where Vietnam vets obviously, like we all know it's in movies, it's been popularized, everyone knows that they got treated like garbage, which was horrendous, and we haven't done that to our veterans since. Now veterans have gotten tied up in issues. We got this stuff going on in LA right now. Sure, right, but there's always been the sentiment that like we'll never go that far again. You know, we'll never have these kids who were torn out of high school, who did things for their country because they were told to, they had to, and then come back and have them get spit in their faces. But you look at the numbers and currently the GWAT veteran is suffering in a different psychological war and the numbers have increased 50% for male veterans, 90% for female veterans. And we're losing veterans for reasons of loss of community, very simple things like TBI PTSD. We still don't know how to treat it, what to do, and unbelievably finance. So the number two reason for veteran suicide and the number one reason for divorce is finance. The number three reason for veteran suicide is familial relationship deterioration. So you're just dealing with loss of family and disconnect, and so you really kind of boiled these things down to finance. And that's what my nonprofit is doing is we're focusing on not the finance bro side of things, but how do we give veterans the benefits that they earned and were designed to facilitate a soft landing financially since 1939, right, like we've had these benefits, we've had these tools. It's proven to work.

Speaker 2:

We've just kind of lost our way and I end up explaining this to people and just saying like it is a remarkably easy issue to solve when you compare it to TBI PTSD. Right, I mean, that's a lifelong endeavor, everyone who's in the field and doing the work. I appreciate you more than you'll ever know. You know, trying to get Ibogaine passed by lobbyists, politics and all that kind of stuff, it takes money, time, effort, and then you really, and then you got to work with a veteran, right. So there's a ton of effort there and what we're trying to do is kind of take a little second and shift our focus on this, this easy win, this easy win.

Speaker 2:

So do something hard, you know, earn the notoriety, earn the benefit and, um, we're going to get out there and just go after it. Uh, it's going to be a meat grinder. You know what I mean. You're looking at 50 plus miles a day, plus 10,000 feet of elevation. Gain a day, uh, with a ruck on your back. But that's how you, you know, that's how you keep people engaged. That's that's what I have to offer. Unfortunately, dudes like us, that's what, that's what we have to give is. You know, dude, I'm going to throw it down, I'm going to destroy my body.

Speaker 2:

It's all I know how to do. So you know you want me to run a Usain Bolt. You know a hundred meter dash can't do it, but um, I can ruck up and just grind my body into dust. So here we go.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, man. I think a lot of us are starting to see that that it's an avenue to get attention. Do you have a media team on the ground following you?

Speaker 2:

So we're we're trying to give everyone access to the meat, like to media sources, social sources, while we're there. So athletes will be able to kind of record their experience and it'll all go on to the same channel, things like that. But you know, being our first year, I'm completely self-funded. So, um, and this is for you, irs, when you start looking at my shit it's like I am losing money. Okay, I don't want to hear it. You know, I've been pouring money into this effort for years now and we're finally at the position where it's like I feel comfortable to say let's put on this event, let's ask for donations, let's turn the lights on and get it moving. But no, so year one we won't have a concerted media team, unfortunately, but hopefully through individual efforts. You know we're going to give guys cameras and we'll have, you know, local wives and we have a great SEAL community out here who's going to help support. We'll have enough film and footage to kind of like bring that into year two and maybe bring some elevated energy into year two.

Speaker 1:

Fuck yeah, man. Um, what's been, what's been your training plan for this? It's a lot of miles, it's a lot of elevation. Yeah, so I tried doing. I tried doing an uh my first uh event, raw dog and let me tell you it was not fun. That's why.

Speaker 2:

I'm coming back for you too.

Speaker 1:

I'll be like, oh fuck, yeah, dude, I got hurt like month three and it was like all right, this is going to stop, and it was like I'm not going to show up. But now you're number two, brother, I'm coming back and I'm telling you I'm going to finish this thing, I've got a training plan, I'm going to finish this thing, I've got a training plan. I'm coming in hard I'm coming.

Speaker 2:

Pretty hard, pretty hard, dude. No, my run I did last year. So we did like a two and a half. I think it was like a three mile swim, I don't know. It kept like changing day of. It was like the water temp is a little high so we're worried about you know what we're going to be able to get away with. But uh, we did like a three mile ish swim and then a 45 pound ruck for 50 miles and did that last year. My training plan was basically like I got shotgun with it too. It was like, bro, can you come out and like hit this thing? I was like definitely. Um, so I had about a month to get ready for that one and I was not running, so that was tough. But uh, my training plan is really easy. It's just like minimum, every day, run an hour and every week do something hard. Um, so like I always run an hour.

Speaker 2:

I live in the mountains, so I'm at elevation. You know I'm sitting at five, five and every morning I get up to like six, five and my runs aren't that far. You know, unfortunately, like when you look at all the influencers and shit, it's like they're running and I'm. I'm not talking down on them. I'm just saying like they're running flat ground, so they're like training reps. It's like 10 miles every day and they're running like six to seven minute miles. It's like dude, that's that's so hitter, like that's sick. I can't do that. I weigh like two, 45 right now and, uh, I'm running in the mountains. I'm way too heavy.

Speaker 1:

Way too heavy. Yeah, I realized I'm in the same boat, dude I, I. I want some, uh, some, some expensive supplements.

Speaker 2:

And uh they work.

Speaker 1:

Shout out to youan sucks, they fucking work. Dude, I have uh, yeah, I am very happy and pleased with uh, my wife uh cheering me on saying I have got some, some good guns these days, but uh, I'm gonna say a boat dude like I gotta realize that if I want to do long distant runs and runs and long-distance rocks, I got to throttle back on the pharmaceuticals Damn.

Speaker 2:

It's nothing illegal. Well, dude, that's what it ends up being too. Is you're like I feel that weight in these miles? You know, like my buddy said it, it best. I showed up to his farm a couple years ago and I would like jogs to do something. He's like damn dude, you're running like a big boy. I was like you, thick boy you're thick.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what it is, though you know like you're heavy and you run like you're heavy. It's like every inch of your body is like damn, this is bullshit I've seen some like back to Savage Loop.

Speaker 1:

I saw some dudes that were some fucking gorillas dude and they finished it. So I was like, okay, if he can do it, I can do it. But I also saw some fucking gazelles and they were like, oh, this is nothing. I was like yeah, I was like I need to get in touch with my inner canyon.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. Well, you know how you do that, dude. Stop eating, it's just no more food, bro.

Speaker 1:

Bro, I was. I was just in france and I was fucking crushing some croissants.

Speaker 2:

Oh dude, yeah, I saw you went to normandy. That looked awesome, man, while you were in. Did you ever get to jump into that?

Speaker 1:

no, no, never, never got to do that, but, uh, this is an. It was an amazing opportunity. Uh, shout out to best defense foundation guys are, are fucking crushing it and I cannot. I hope, I hope to, for goodness sakes, I hope I get the invite again because, dude, the greatest human beings I ever met, dude, these guys get up singing. They're happy, um, freaking, just dude they're. They will share every bit of their story. Like we tend to think of our, our world war ii veterans, as, like you know, like, oh, they're sold and then we do these.

Speaker 1:

These guys were sharp as a tack, sharing so much of their lives Like some of them still spoke French. That was that blew me away, dude. And like they were, they were rock stars there. Man, like literally had people like jumping on stage to like kiss them, like I, like I'm literally like next year they're like American, thank you. And like jumping on stage, like, like I'm like dude, next year, just bring it back as a bodyguard, because I had the most fun doing that like jumping on stage, but get off the stage, god please, sorry, please make love to me, mandy, please make love to me, randy.

Speaker 1:

Make love to me, please, yeah I love you, randy.

Speaker 2:

Make love to me, randy, please.

Speaker 1:

Best south park reference ever dude, dude, so I I did.

Speaker 2:

Uh, I jumped into normandy. Um, no, sweet opportunity, got completely pieced up by my chief at the time because we got on the bus to go, and you do. You guys have the same rule, like uh, collared shirts for travel days oh, yeah, yeah, yeah okay, so representable.

Speaker 2:

I was being a little, uh, little turd and I and sometimes I I do, I do travel day in not a collar, but it's it's a button-up t-shirt. It's still got like it's three buttons, but it's just a t and button up t-shirt. It's still got like it's three buttons, but it's just a T and um dude he like, and we had, we had the the force master chief on the bus. I think he was like, uh, I don't know if he was a force master chief, but he was a team guy and he was like, at least, dude, he was super high up and you know we're on travel day. I'm not wearing like a polo, but I still got the buttons.

Speaker 2:

So to me, I'm that, I'm kosher and uh, it's got buttons. Chief, dude, come on and um, it's like half the deal and the, the mcpon, or whatever the, the force master chief, he, he legit was wearing like nike t-shirt, nike shorts, like just didn't give a shit at all. And my chief came on and looked at me and reamed me out on the bus and like he was just like you know, said something. And I just like put my thumb right in his face, like as close as I could get, and uh, and then he like took me off the bus and he's yelling at me and I was like I looked at he's like you want to fucking stay home? Like oh well, you know, whatever. And I was like dude, what are you gonna do? Like we have to get somewhere. And the force master chief is sitting on the fucking bus right now, like do you want to have it out for an hour and have him miss his flight and not get to jump into normandy? What are you gonna do, dude? You've got two options. It's leave me here or don't. And he was just like fuck it, get on the bus, bro.

Speaker 2:

But that was a sick day, dude. I mean after getting reamed out. Then we went in normandy and jumped in. I literally landed like uh to like. It just hammered home the point that like I didn't give a shit but I still crushed. I landed right on the X, so they had the whole camera crew, it's like right on the flag and I was just like, yeah, what do you think about that shit boy.

Speaker 2:

But dude to your point, it was sick man, those French villages like they the way it was explained to me is like dude. Their grandparents are still alive, their grandmothers who are being occupied and raped by German soldiers, they're still alive. So they tell their grandkids and their kids kids and everything. And you go into the city and you feel it. It's electric. They love those guys.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you feel it, it's electric, they, they love those guys. Yeah, honestly, the way I think of it is like them like look, say what you want about everything that came after that, but it's the most righteous friggin cause, the greatest friggin call of a nation to join that fight, and those guys deserve it. Man, like I look back to like the shit that we did and and not to minimize it but like did we really need Afghanistan? Probably not, probably not large by large. It's not something that's going to be remembered in the same light and it's just the least good to like have American heroes, like true American heroes, whereas you can like look at some of the service from what we've done. I'd be like dude, we have PX at fucking food court bath. Like, yeah, I don't know it's no, it's going to ever be. Like let's go back to Afghanistan. It's like please don't need it.

Speaker 2:

Could you imagine holding the same event in the current social climate in Afghanistan or Iraq right now?

Speaker 1:

Dude just being being welcomed by the taliban. Uh, as you can see, not much has changed. It's still a shit hole.

Speaker 2:

I don't know why he's russian, as you can see, not much. We gotta get old ass sean connery to play a fucking a taliban insurgent? I bet he has. I don't know why I'm like thinking that he has dude, ai can make it, ai can make it sean connery could make it.

Speaker 1:

He would do it, he's got gpt generate a movie with sean connery as a scottish taliban member dude.

Speaker 2:

I mean stephen seagal basically did it. He's fucking, he's all over that shit. He's steven seagal, he's a russian puppet now dude, he's always he is.

Speaker 1:

He is so deep in ties with the russian government. Now it's insane. I never had that. I did not have that on my 2025 bingo card. I wish I would. Is this news?

Speaker 2:

I haven't heard. Check it out. Yeah, seagal is deep state russian intel he's like in every russian propaganda video.

Speaker 2:

I'm pretty sure he's making films for russia right now dude, and you know what it all goes back to that fucking one movie he made where he was a sniper. Did you ever watch this one? He's a sniper and in the beginning of the movie he's like working for the ca or something, and, um, he, he, like you know how he always like affects, like a louisiana black, like bro, yes, tone, yes, yes, so he's doing that in the beginning of the movie. And then he completely so, he's like they're doing, they're running some op, it's all hilarious, bro, it's, it's his, it's absolutely hysterical. And then he switches his accent to like a ukraine, like you know, eastern block european. And the rest of the movie somehow, like you start he's like just like military operator from the us, and then something happens and then he's like just living the rest of his life banging a really hot chick in like eastern block europe, and the story completely changes and, uh, it's so fun, dude, you've got us, you got.

Speaker 1:

I'll try to remember the name, but the best, because I'm gonna put it up on the screen like right now, right he's banging this really, really hot chick and he's Steven Seagal and he's wearing all of his clothes he's still got everything on. He's got his glasses.

Speaker 2:

He's got his leather duster, he's still wearing his pants. So sick dude. He's so next level awesome, like doesn't know anything about jiu-jitsu or martial arts. Martial arts expert what is?

Speaker 1:

his, like his aikido shit is fucking hilarious. I just come across and I just fold you down. He just pushes me and I come around and I just push.

Speaker 2:

It's mentalism. He scares them into death.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, he is responsible for one of the greatest 90s movies ever Under Siege. I'm just a cook.

Speaker 2:

And his martial arts has always been the same. It's like minimal body movement, maximal arm movement.

Speaker 1:

Dude insane, Just his cheesy knife fighting with Tom Lee Jones at the end.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, so dope.

Speaker 1:

RIP. I know you're not that, but soon, soon, there's no way.

Speaker 2:

There's no way he makes it to 80. Could be possible?

Speaker 1:

Could you imagine having him on the run? I mean honorary seal. You did play once, so join us.

Speaker 2:

He can have my trident. I'll give up everything to get him on this run. Steven Seagal. If you're listening for some fucking reason or you see this clip it's 220 months I'll let you do your mentalist shit and we'll put you in at the last mile, ahead of everyone you'll be the winner I will let you. If I'm, if I'm in first, I will let you roast me like. I'll let you run the final 10 feet that you can run still, and I will let you make fun of me publicly.

Speaker 1:

You need to have them on fucking let's. Let's do a go fund me for steven seagal to be on this run. That'd be sick we would have to raise what? To get his appearance like 50 honestly, I think you'd do it for a hoagie yeah, it was good, a big grinder sandwich you'd be down for seafood po'boy dude.

Speaker 2:

That was like we were setting up for my buddy's bachelor party one time and someone was like dude, should we get rick flair? And I was like you know, we were like like new guys. I was like dude, there's absolutely no way we could afford rick flair. And he's like no dude, I'm on his website right now. It's like 200 bucks fucking steal dude dude.

Speaker 1:

I bet he's on cameo. I bet he's on cameo.

Speaker 2:

I dude, he's gotta be. I I don't think yeah, he's gotta be right yeah, yeah, I'm on it right now.

Speaker 1:

Let's research this. I thought about getting a couple cameos for the to do shit for the podcast while back and then, because I was the mental acuity of a squirrel, I always forget to come back and check it out, but you'd be blown away by who's on Cameo. Just fucking just everybody.

Speaker 2:

I kind of want to look into that now?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, dude, it's a win-win situation.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it really is.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I remember what happened. So I'm a big fan of Aqua Teen Hunger Force. I think it's one of the greatest shows ever.

Speaker 1:

It's amazing and I was like dude what if I get the voice actors to do the intro, like to just do the intro of the podcast? I kept looking in, yeah, and I found out the fry lock was homeless and it really bummed me out, dude, it was so fucking sad. I was like, fuck, yeah, I'm gonna get him to do the fucking intro, be great. And uh, carrie carrie me, as carrie means the uh, the guy does master shake and a few other.

Speaker 1:

They were listed on there but uh, you know, they were a little bit outside my price point, like you know, 300, 400. So it's like that's, that's a bit much for an intro. But uh, fry lock was on there for like 150, I think. It was like in there for like a cheese sandwich, but like it was like super a grilled cheese, super bummed out because it was so sad. He had pictures of his apartment and like going like fucking, like, uh, like it was like fuck he's. He was on the streets at one point I was like fuck dude, like this guy got me sounds like he could be homeless.

Speaker 2:

He sounds like if there was a character that was all reverse yeah, it's all reverse.

Speaker 1:

You think meatwad and fry and master shake are gonna be the ones abusing cocaine and heroin.

Speaker 2:

And uh, it's, fry lock, it's yeah, it's always the educated guy, it's not. Carl car's always going to have his double wide, he'll be fine.

Speaker 1:

There's a guy that actually he looks like the cartoon version. It's not the real voice actor, but he looks identical. They actually used him from the live action episode they did, which is fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2:

Actually, let's look at Frylock now. He looks like Carl.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, 100% looks like Carl. That's sick, actually. Let's look at fry lock now. He looks like carl. Yeah, 100 looks like carl. Yeah, that's so, he's still. So. Fry lock is still on. Cameo, uh, carry means 65 dollars, oh fuck that's so sick did he do any other voices across adult. No, he did, he did, he did. I want to say he did Frylock Thunder, cleese from the Brack show, jonah Bishop from Welcome to the Wayne, yeah, yeah, the.

Speaker 2:

Brack show is heavily slapped on, heavily slapped on.

Speaker 1:

Insanely slapped on bro Like the intro itself um, it's so good yeah space goes coast to coast. Oh my god, dude, I don't even need medicinal marijuana to laugh hard, I just need to watch some of the old school uh, cartoon network or not. Adult swim shows. Dude, fucking so good dude, they're amazing.

Speaker 2:

Do you remember the uh god, the professor brothers? No, uh, they did a couple of shorts, so they're. I think the spinoff show might have been um chicago il with that big weird character, but they did um, you, you have to know these. They did some youtube videos and one of them is like about uh, washington, and it's like Washington, washington, six foot twenty, fucking killing for fun. They did like. They did like history lessons on presidents, but they're fucking hilarious, dude. The other one they did is about like Sodom and Gomorrah. The presentation they do is that they're like two professors working at a college, but they're just like super crass and like slightly educated dude. It's, it's, it's worth a shake, it's what's the?

Speaker 2:

name of them again. The professor brothers, watch that and tell me you don't love it oh dude, yes, yes, I remember now.

Speaker 1:

yeah, yeah, unlocked a poor memory.

Speaker 2:

I love what he's describing God. Who was this story of Sodom and Gomorrah about? But he's running away from the cities and God told him don't look back. And his wife looked back for one second, one split, fucking second. She turned into a pillar of salt. Second, she turned into a pillar of salt and he's just like could you imagine your wife turns into a fucking pillar of salt or some other spice.

Speaker 2:

So stupid by him. Salt salted. A pillar of fucking salt, dude he's just. Could you imagine your fucking wife man turns into a fucking pillar of salt or some other spice?

Speaker 1:

In the pictures of the dude Is that lemon pepper.

Speaker 2:

He's like crying and looking back. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, we're going to hell.

Speaker 2:

Dude, that's brutal. Those biblical stories are unreal dude.

Speaker 1:

Some are insane dude, they're awesome in the whale. I couldn't imagine being trapped inside a whale. That'd be horrifying. Yeah, what are you doing, dude?

Speaker 2:

did you ever do um? Did you dive uh?

Speaker 1:

no, I have. I have a thing with uh, uh water where I don't uh, I don't want to get the fuck in it. I don't fuck with that shit, I'm a sky boy. Yeah, yeah dude I would always think about that when you're diving you know, because you're in your black wetsuit.

Speaker 2:

You're just with one other dude, everything's black, like you can see fucking nothing. And so I I liked to be the dude who drove, because you're looking at your tack board and you have something to do, but the dude who's not driving is literally looking ahead, like just in case we're going to run into something sharp, and it's like no, that's not me, man, I'm not. I'm not the look around guy, because all I ever think like some thing, some big fucking thing, is just gonna like open its mouth and we're gonna swim in and not know. And then that's where you are now. That's it. You fucking live.

Speaker 2:

I just I think, that happened to some woman recently. They were diving in a. She was swallowed by a blue whale. I'm not even kidding, I'm no shit put, put her up on the board.

Speaker 1:

Let's see it. Let's see this. Let's see this woman swallowed. I better be careful with what I Google.

Speaker 2:

Did you say that just to cover down on the Google auto propagation Right?

Speaker 1:

It's like number one hit, number one, hit. I got gobbled up by a whale. Oh, did she live, yeah. Dude that's sick, apparently, but that's the first thing she says on Slate Magazine's interview. Who the fuck is Slate Magazine?

Speaker 2:

Slate Magazine Did you mean to say Slut Magazine? I think you're looking at the wrong shit dude, no slate slate.

Speaker 1:

I'll put it up here. Slate woman's woman's slut magazine I got gobbled by a whale, something that a guy from boston would say no, here's the full headline. Here's the full headline boston.

Speaker 2:

So she has dude, that's gotta be insane, like if you're headline boston. So she has dude, that's got to be insane, like if you're from boston. You could have an incredible life experience and it'd be really deep and no one would care because you just sound like that slate magazine, I got gobbled up by a whale.

Speaker 1:

It was amazing. I'm sure it was becky, it was incredible.

Speaker 2:

It was so good for my chakras.

Speaker 1:

The vibes were good in there oh, august 26, 2023, so it was a recent ish um, why do I think that's recent?

Speaker 2:

that's so crazy dude that was the the headline alone.

Speaker 1:

If you want to read the full article, be an episode description, knock yourself out. Uh, the the uh picture. Uh, it looks like it's ai generated as a kayaker and uh right in the mouth of a whale.

Speaker 2:

Then that'd be terrifying that'd be gnarly, you know, especially if you're in a kayak, so vulnerable yeah.

Speaker 1:

Dude. I saw a video somebody posted recently of a guy in a canoe fucking out in the ocean getting fucking attacked by a shark.

Speaker 2:

No, no, thanks, nah, dude, no, well, dude, the scarier thing is the fucking killer whale, because they like know how to get you out of boats, like they're known in Alaska killer whales, like pods of killer whales for fucking flipping boats on purpose, like on purpose they, because they do that thing that they do with the iceberg and they all swim under it and they make that current where it rocks and they flip it. Could you imagine, like, just like being assaulted by a fucking bitch made ass, stupid animal, fucking so gay. Dude, are you so pissed off?

Speaker 1:

are you kidding me?

Speaker 2:

top three worst ways to die outsmarted by a fucking whale dude, getting eaten has to be number one, right like what would be worse than being eaten by something else?

Speaker 1:

sexually assaulted by something else, like a bear, like raped to death by something else. Yeah, yeah, that'd be that.

Speaker 2:

That's pretty, that's insult to injury yeah the question is do you die right away or do you die from sepsis later? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:

well, I mean it depends on the size of the bear they're all big dude.

Speaker 2:

I don't know what he's packing, but it's probably huge actually. Oh, what are bears packing? I have no idea. I mean, we all know horse cocks are giant, but a bear maybe. I would say but a bear, maybe it's tiny, maybe it's tiny and you laugh at it that's what enrages him. You shame him, oh nice.

Speaker 1:

I think I'm gonna live from this bear attack.

Speaker 2:

Yikes buddy gay gay, buddy Gay Fucking. I'm sorry, is a toddler trying to rape me right now. I'm fucking out. I'm a bear mix myself.

Speaker 1:

Just so I don't have to deal with your shit? Oh my God.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's one of the funny things about we do uh, we do part of our training in kodiak, alaska. Kodiak has the biggest bears on the planet and you go out there and we're like, just wherever you are, whatever you do, like every class is just like running into bears, like no matter what you do. And so I, my buddies so this wasn't my, my group, but my buddy's group they're going along the river and they see like a sow and her cub, which is like you know, yeah, the ultimate shit. Yeah, because they'll run you down for like a mile, like just to get you away from the cub. And so this bear starts running them down. And in this part in training, they take the firing pins out of our rifles. Okay, so we just have bear mace, because they just don't trust students with the responsibility of having, you know, like a loaded weapon. We're like dude these are bears.

Speaker 2:

Like you know we're. We're students. You can drop us from training. We're sufficiently scared to not make these mistakes. Like you know we're we're students, you can drop us from training. We're sufficiently scared to not make these mistakes. Like please give us a gun. And uh, they're like Nope and bear mace in the cans. You know, like any level of student training, they're getting recycled over and over and over, like they're not buying new cans. So, uh, one of my buddies breaks it out to to make somebody just like everyone get your. And then they they spray and it goes into the fucking wind. It comes right and they just mace the shit out of themselves and they can't see in a fucking sow is like a 2 000 pound apex predator is charging them down a river. They're like run away. So fucked dude. So they all just started screaming that actually worked. Like they yelled it down and it ran away, but then they all got maced out. It's so funny? Definitely not.

Speaker 2:

Brandish your mates Brandish your mace and then you just get ran down by a bear While you got mace in your shot, just fucking the remnant. Oh my god, dude, that movie. By the end I was literally. I can't remember who I was sitting with, but I looked at my buddy. I was like what's next Is a tornado gonna fucking come get him now.

Speaker 1:

This dude's life is too hard I just had a dude on the show that survived a, a bear attack and I was like bro I, I watched the revenant to prepare for this interview and he's like it's funny you say that because it was exactly like that. I was like, get the fuck out of it. He's like, yeah, exactly like that. It just fucking just pounce, pounce, pounce, bite, bite, crunch, thrashed him around and then finally it went to bite his hand and he had the can, the bear mace, in his hand. So it bit down through his hand, punctured the pepper spray or the bear mace shot into its mouth and it just took off like crazy and that's when he was like he fucking got up and was like all right, I guess I'm still alive.

Speaker 1:

Might as well create some distance. But the bear ran down towards the road so he had to run the opposite way, further into the woods. I'm just like fuck dude.

Speaker 2:

Was this a younger military cat and he was out there with his girlfriend yeah, yeah, right, dude I think I heard his story on um steve ronell's podcast yeah, he was on meteor yeah, dude, that is wild.

Speaker 2:

And I I always think to myself from his story, like when I have my gun on me. You know, because I'm doing all my training in the mountains and I do a lot of it, like near Lake Tahoe, so I'm like ready for that. And it's like, dude, if a bear were to try to come at me right now, like it's got to be, it has to be chest carry. Like they're so fast, they're so big, they're so aggressive, like you have to be able to just pop off a couple rounds. I always think about it. You know, you got your wife out there and small dogs. It's like what's the plan? And I had last, last weekend, I did a five mile ruck. It was like 2 000 feet of elevation and I put on like a hundred pound ruck don't recommend it.

Speaker 2:

It's such a shitty time zero out of five stars, zero, zero, dude. Well, the the way the way up, I was like this is great training. You know, it wasn't as hard as I thought it was going to be, because once you get past 45 pounds you're like this is just really heavy and I'm gonna be walking heavy guy pace anyways. Yeah, and it was fine, boy pace, big boy pace, and I was just, you know, like grinding my legs. My wife pregnant, so she's going slow, and it was fine.

Speaker 2:

And then I got to the top, took the ruck off and I was like oh God, no, because I was in the muscular pain. I didn't notice the structural damage that was happening and my hips were hurting really bad. So then I put it on and I went back down. Long story short, the way down was unreal. I was like really, really, really, really regretting having that heavy ass rock. I mean, it was just like scary as shit. I was like dude, every step I am so close to tearing something like the way down was awful. But I was thinking the whole time like I have a gun on me, but I also have a hundred pound ruck on me, like how fast am I getting this thing off and getting to that gun, not fast, not fast, like that bear is gonna crush you.

Speaker 2:

You gotta really be fucking squared away, dude, you gotta have the, the chest carry.

Speaker 1:

There's like no other alternative yeah, dude, it's gotta be like something insanely powerful.

Speaker 2:

Those fucking things are tanks, dude dude, when lewis and clark were coming across the the country and they were like we saw this new kind of of bear. It's ferocious and massive. They would shoot these things online, like with like 50 guys, and they would. The bear would still chase them down like fuck, what. One of the anecdotal like points, like one of the guys was just like he runs back to camp. He's like holy fuck, everyone, get your guns. I shot a giant animal and I thought I was gonna kill it so we could eat it. I shot it in the heart and they had, like you know, muskets, so the round is like this big. He's like I shot it in the heart. I swear to god, it ran down. It ran him down for like three miles and he was on horseback. It gets there and they all had to shoot it to put it down. And then they kept doing that like they kept. They kept trying to shoot bears like the whole time, dude, they were like I mean, that's like the, it's the ultimate game.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what it was like, dude they were like oh my god, he totally almost died from shooting that bear. Let's go shoot more another one.

Speaker 1:

How's the fucking rush, ishmael, let's do it dude.

Speaker 2:

Is anyone else super bored crossing this country with all these native americans that want us dead and all these predators? Yeah, hella bored. Surviving is so easy right now. Shall, we, shall, we go shoot another one of those giant bears, yay.

Speaker 1:

All for you. They just make it harder. Perhaps only use spears.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, dude, dude is like. I feel like they were, because, like the way they write it is, it seems like they every dude who would go out on patrol who would see one, would just be like that last pussy missed. There's no way you could shoot this thing in the heart and it doesn't die. And then he would try and he'd be like, oh my god, and then they've run. It's's true. It's true, scram boys, dude. I think they legit, like dudes, died on their expedition from bears, maybe one, fuck yeah.

Speaker 1:

I would imagine a few.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, those dudes didn't have the best fortitude, poor bastards they were just down to clown, though, which is what this race is all about. I should call this the Lewis and Clark 220. No, nothing, no nothing.

Speaker 1:

You have to dress old timey with the exact apparel and like March.

Speaker 2:

It's the same frill collars and shit yeah, your 22 pounds is just like two old school octagonal barrel muskets no water you just have to get it done.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, dude, you have to have okay. So you have to pack out only historically accurate items from that time period, that'd be kind of only eat, only eat historically. So you have to have like salt, tack and bacon and uh, just putrid water.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, that's like um. Have you ever heard the story of the donner party?

Speaker 1:

yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So like the donner pass, and everyone was like they were eating, eating people. It was like the worst thing that's ever happened. So when you go up to the donner pass, which is actually pretty close to here, and you look at like the history center and you kind of like read a little bit, a bit about it, the whole thing is basically like here's this family. They wanted to go through the donner pass, like they just wanted to make the crossing and every in it they're wealthy, of course, and every guy did they talked to was like not right now, wait, and then we'll do it later. And they were like no, and then they went. And then they went and found some crazy guy and they were like so this is our plan and we want to do it right now. And he's just like genius, let's go do that. And then they go up there and they get fucking snowed in and now there's a monument to them. They're like monumental idiots, like for real.

Speaker 2:

Like there was no, they didn't, they didn't have to go, there was no imperative. Like the diner party just wanted to go and asked everyone who wasn't retarded and then they got all those. And then a guy was just like, yeah, I'll take you. And then he took them the wrong way. They got stuck and that guy was like I'm gonna go back for help, and then he left. So you just have a bunch of people who don't know how to be outside professionally just sitting there waiting and then he left. So you just have a bunch of people who don't know how to be outside professionally just sitting there waiting and then they got snowed in by like whatever. It was like 18 feet, it was like some ungodly amount of snow. And you have like all these natives and all these people who've been living in the land forever eating pine nuts and stuff, and they're like dude, why would you go now and then, for some reason in history? It's like we need to build a monument to their sacrifice. It's like to what they weren't, they weren't even exploring.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like they were legit just doing a walk that people had done before and they just did it wrong and they were dumb fucking idiots.

Speaker 1:

They get remembered as heroes yeah they were. Yeah, they figured it out they ate themselves dude, that's it did.

Speaker 2:

The the thing doesn't say they did, but people went missing yeah, yeah, little timmy didn't make it out.

Speaker 1:

He made great hamburger.

Speaker 2:

Dude, god, that'd be so messed up. I mean, they were legit in 18 feet of snow. So like every step you take, you're just like falling down a whole building into a trench of snow. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I think that's the worst thing, dude, like being trapped in snow. That would be fucking insane.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to go that way.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

No, no, I mean, were you like? I mean, do you ski or snowboard?

Speaker 1:

No, last time I went was like fucking 2017, 2016. Yeah, my body ain't doing that shit too long. Nah, nah, dog, nah, nah. And yeah, my body ain't doing that shit too long. Yeah, I just nah, dog, nah, nah. I remember we spent like the entire day out on the mountain and then came back and the next day I was just like I need ice and stretching, I need mobility, guys. Oh dude it's.

Speaker 2:

It's a weird environment because everyone's like dude, let's get absolutely blackout drunk and then go be as athletic as we physically could possibly be yeah, you're not doing that. And like going to a track and field meet like, dude, hit my flask, let's go hit this 400 meter dash. Why are we doing that?

Speaker 1:

yo bro, let's get fucking crushed and run 25 miles. Let's do it.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think we, I think we have one of those 5ks, we have those in virginia those 5ks are, uh, they're ridiculous.

Speaker 1:

Let's eat donuts while we do a 5k.

Speaker 2:

Come on, dude no I mean fuck dude, what is a 5k right?

Speaker 1:

it's like the worst type of run, because then it's just like everybody there is, just the dumbest motherfuckers, just we're doing a 5k for peace in israel. I'm like, no, no, no, we're not we're not doing that, we're not.

Speaker 2:

We're not doing that you have to walk to an outhouse in palestine further than a 5k if you want to take a semi-sanitary shit. This is not it. You are missing many of the points not my thing, dog.

Speaker 1:

I think these physical things have to be like a purpose and be like a real distant like, have to be like real, like something challenging. Man, it has to be really fucking tough and um, yeah, there's a dude into an economic game.

Speaker 2:

You know, like the more people I can get to sign up, I, dude, I didn't realize this when I started doing the ultras. It's like some of these races are like a thousand dollars or more,500. And you look at that and you're like, oh Whoa. You know, like you're volunteering to run someone's route, yeah, but you get a sweet belt buckle at the end, dude.

Speaker 1:

Dude, that's so sick, that's so fucking sick. The benefit is ultra Belt buckle culture is kind of tight. Kind of dope dude. I'm just saying next year, what are you doing? Memorial Day weekend.

Speaker 2:

Dude, I'm down to clown whenever you know that.

Speaker 1:

We're doing the Benavides Ultra for Campbell, Kentucky, dude, because you get a belt buckle. It's just like a continuous loop. I think it's a seven-mile loop. You just got to do six hours, to do as many as you can and try to break that 26-mile threshold and then we get a belt buckle Six hours to get in a 26-miler.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's not bad right. I suck at this math.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, me too. It's not my strong, but we do it together. We bring a team and then we crush it and we all get belt buckles. And yeah, it's part of the the, the challenge I'm coming up for next year. We got we got to do three events. The first one's going to be Savage Loop in Florida. That's the first one that comes and then Memorial Day weekend we're doing the. Uh, we got to do the Benavides Ultra at Fort Campbell, kentucky, and then we got to do one more. Got to figure out which one we're going to be doing.

Speaker 2:

Dude, yeah, do this 220 next year as the last race, as the last, like, all right, sick, these were good events. We feel good. Yeah, now let's fucking grind and die.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, let's do it. Let's make that one the last one, then I'm down. I yeah, let's do it. Let's make that one the last one, then I'm down, I'm down, let's do it.

Speaker 2:

I mean, the one thing that I really fucked up last year in my training cycle was I finished my last ultra in I think November, I think it was and then I was like, all right, I'm done running until it's warm now.

Speaker 1:

And uh.

Speaker 2:

I am done. That did not work. I am way too heavy and I've never taken really creatine before and you know you listen to like one Joe Rogan. And now you're like, okay, I'm going to go buy all eight of those supplements and take them all and see what happens. And, um, and see what happens, and I've been taking creatine and I don't normally and, dude, you gain so much weight.

Speaker 2:

Like I fluctuate like 10 pounds a day, 10 pounds, 10 pounds of water weight a day. I mean that's just absurd. You know what I mean. So I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Dude, I think I gotta stop taking creatine On the backside, let's get a coach. Let's get a coach for next year.

Speaker 1:

let's get a fucking marathon coach I think I know the guy okay yeah yeah, he's like I got a good training, good training plan with uh automated, uh running coach. But I want to, I want a real human being coach to dial in my uh, my running and start me off from ground zero. Because we have, we have, by the time you're done, you recuperate and rest like we have enough time to like fucking really start training and get on like a fucking, like fucking running running shape be simple.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's nice because when you get in that running shape and then you go for your hour jog or whatever and you make like you know 10 miles, you're like, oh shit, I'm like so fast, I'm so dialed. Right now that's the best feeling, where you're just like, oh shit. I did that the other day I was in LA for a contract gig and I like ran and I was like, all right, I'm flat ground, like let's try to, this isn't the mountains, maybe we kick it out, see what happens. And I made like eight and a half miles. I was like, okay, cool, that's like something that I can actually measure, like I know how fast I'm actually going. Felt pretty good. Um, haven't been running on pavement, so my shins kind of hurt after that, but otherwise I was like, oh okay, I kind of feel sick and and then lost some weight, gained some weight back, not heavy as shit, don't feel good anymore, whatever.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's my next. I'm in the same boat. It's time to cut down. Being big was awesome, bouncing people is cool. Dude. Fucking France did so much for my fucking positive body image because you're a fucking yoke dude. I was like, yeah, I eat normal food and it looks like you don't. You just drink coffee and smoke cigarettes, so maybe just eat some protein, but yeah, it's fucking.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's pretty sick when you like have been just around like your wife for a while and then, like you, go out in the wild and people like you're fucking unit dude.

Speaker 1:

It's like yeah, that, yeah, that word right there. What Fucking shout out to you, jc. This kid was like you look like Jason Momoa, or just like a bodyguard. I'm like all right, little guy, you just made my day. Jason Momoa is good, the bodyguard shit can go.

Speaker 2:

But Jason Momoa say that again Nice, nice nice, nice. Nice, nice Jason.

Speaker 1:

Momoa Say that again Nice, nice, nice, sick, sick.

Speaker 2:

Sick. I had a dude I went to an event and he was just like bro, why would you, why aren't you like, why aren't you playing like linebacker for like a professional football team? And I was like good question, good question, ask me more questions about why I look like such a fucking unit just like, like johnny, bravo just looking like a full-on triangle and still getting rejected by chicks. That guy's the spirit animal of the teens shout out to you true classic t-shirts.

Speaker 1:

You make us look fucking yoked dude, nothing better than a t-shirt that makes you look massive just, oh my god, can I get that same t-shirt in the following sizes shmedium shmedium light and extra shmedium tight?

Speaker 2:

just I want my t-shirt to basically just be the little ring at the end of the t-shirt sleeves and the top one that chokes my neck out.

Speaker 1:

No need for the material in the middle, it's not necessary dude, the greatest thing on earth is when you go like I don't care what any of my other fucking numbers are, but when you go to curl and you're just grabbing every weight imaginable and it's just like, all right, 50s, 60s, 70s, the pre-made curl bars you're like, oh fuck, yeah, let's rep these out. Yes.

Speaker 2:

There's nothing better. I mean, you know like all exercise is awesome, but there's really no better feeling than having like a just a sick bicep pump. Unfortunately, that is just completely and utterly true, like there is no better feeling than vascularity from your fingertips to your neck and it's only your biceps that you're working out. You're like yeah, this is's there's no need for it.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't help me in any of the things that I want to do. I don't give a fuck it feels so good dude I.

Speaker 1:

But nothing's greater than like going to the gym and like. So I've got this new running shirt and it's like super, it's like one of those like it's super light fabric. Yeah, it was like really big on the arms. I put it on this morning and I was like we'll take care of this today. Today is bicep day. Like by the time you're done lifting, it's like ridiculously tight and you're like legit. So like when we were working on the farm.

Speaker 2:

You're so fucking dick tired after about a week of, like you know, 16 ish hour days. Yeah, it's hot. It's not like the most demanding work in the world. You know we're not dragging hoes to the field and shit, but it's just like hot and you have to pay attention, whatever. And uh, by the next morning we would always work out in the morning.

Speaker 2:

It just basically turned into every day. It'd be like we drink pre-workout. You know, sit down, watch bodybuilders or something on TV like pumping iron, and you're like, yeah, all right, so what are we working out today? And it's like well, you look at the bench, you look at the rack. You have like everything you need to do any kind of workout you want to. And you're like so should we just do buys and call it good. It's like yeah, yep, yep. Yeah, our workout started just turning into like go do pre-workout, watch tv for like 60 straight minutes and then, for 10 minutes, be like, oh fuck, we got to work out and then just pump your buys as hard as you possibly can, yep, yep yeah, what I do in the afternoons for my second workout is I play over the top where it's a.

Speaker 1:

it's a mix, really it's, it's a. Cuts from over the top Rocky, the training montage, and then the movie Soldier with what's his name Fucking, not Michael Douglas, the other dude from the thing. Anyways, those cuts all in one radical workout plan and you just work out by us. That's all you do, dudes with the over the top.

Speaker 2:

Soundtrack from rocky over the top is the most bicep of a movie ever. It is so sick. There's nothing better than just watching two dudes greased up and flexed out and the only scene is just dudes like the frame. Is this always? It's just arms. That movie fucking rocks too. There's nothing better than watching like Rocky play the character of a total washout Shit, dad Right.

Speaker 2:

The worst fucking dad, dude, worst, worst dad. And then his kid is pissed and he's like Michael. What's why, dude, you're beat a bitch Like he's like. He's like always acting like his kid is being over the top and then he's just like dude, that's why the name of the movie is over the top it's not about the fucking move. It's about how annoying michael is. As his son you know. He runs out on the highway and he's like why are?

Speaker 2:

you acting like this? I haven't seen you in your whole life. I abandoned you because I don't like myself. Michael, it's still about me and you're like dude. What the how? Is that a tactic? And then the kid gets totally manipulated and his rich.

Speaker 2:

His rich, non-burnout grandpa is just like hey bro, no, you can't steal my kid by driving your truck through our gate and into my foyer and then steal this kid that you have no custody over and no relationship with, who you just met. And then now he's the bad guy because he taught him how to fucking eat a burger at a greased up restaurant and arm wrestle and you're like dude, this movie is amazing. Like this, this is. This is the pathway to success for absentee fathers to just come back whenever they want and do the bare minimum and when their son over, like yeah, but I'm Jack, you know your mom has cancer just dying in a bed. You seen that shit? Michael, little bitch, get in, get in this truck and he's just like all right I don't care about copyright laws.

Speaker 1:

We're putting a montage of this movie in this episode. Enjoy it right here that movie rocks man.

Speaker 2:

We tried to build that machine that he has in our tractors in the tractors didn't work. We were just like, yeah, you got nothing to do all day. You're just like, oh man. What kind of yeah, you got nothing to do all day. You're just like, oh man, oh good, what kind of fucking workout is this too?

Speaker 1:

Accidentally get really good at jerking off.

Speaker 2:

Get really good at jerking off two tall guys. Two dudes at the same time over the top or two michael's gay michael's in a world where michael was gay the whole time one father has one shot, one shot to make it right and he's doing this shit like the porn guy move that's the over the top they were talking in a world where lubrication is cheap and over the top. The head of your penis is the move. Michael's 18 now, so it's not illegal to make this movie over the top too.

Speaker 1:

Michael's revenge. I'll show you, dad. It's actually coming out in Cannes Film Festival this year. It's the first big promotion I ever did on this podcast. Check out our movie, it's coming out.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to Over the Top 2.

Speaker 1:

It's right here You'll see the title of it. I'm really proud to be behind this film. We worked really hard, tirelessly.

Speaker 2:

In a world where Michael doesn't want to use his mouth.

Speaker 1:

His father taught him the right technique. Instead of his wrist just being this way, he just like oh man, we're really hoping this movie hits it big. We're proud to be part of it, real proud.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this is my first crack at writing and directing a film.

Speaker 1:

Put together an amazing ensemble. Mostly all talent we found on Cameo Revolutionary technique, $65 a day. We actually got the voice actor from.

Speaker 2:

Frylock to be an AI intelligent vibrator training mechanism.

Speaker 1:

Michael, you have to go faster.

Speaker 2:

Faster, you got to go faster. It's insane, oh my.

Speaker 1:

God. On that note, where can we go to find out more about your upcoming endurance feat and challenge, Liam?

Speaker 2:

So I'm on YouTube at 3Bravo podcast veterans podcast, and you can go straight to 3Bravoorg, check out the events page and find everything you need from there. There are plenty of ways to donate, still plenty of ways to support, and if you are an ultra endurance athlete and you're a veteran, and even if you're not, send me a message, send me a DM on anything on LinkedIn, on Instagram, I will respond. We will give you a real crack at the race If you haven't done an ultra yet and you want to try this, ain't it dog, do something else. But this is for experienced vets only. The support crew is legit. We have awesome sponsors behind us. Go, rock Born, primitive Seal, future Foundation.

Speaker 2:

Mcphee's Bar and Grill is legit. We have awesome sponsors behind us. Uh, go, rock born, primitive seal, future foundation bar and grill. Uh, on your six whiskey, emerald spear, tequila. Thank you guys for supporting. We have cool things coming, especially for the racers buckles, t-shirts, uh, awesome opportunities to support. And then on august 29th we'll be holding a fundraiser for the event, for the tools that we're using to kind of facilitate this paradigm shift from the bureaucratic get out of the military, kick your butt out the door and maybe get some disability on the way to a full person concept of compassion, care and veterans benefits guidance. So check out threebravoorg and then send me a message on any of our socials.

Speaker 1:

Heck, yeah, you heard it there. Folks Go to the episode description. I'll wait, just go and pause. Go there. All that information is there. And I'm going to ask you to do me two things. Do me a favor, solid favor. Go ahead and follow Liam and myself on all our social media and go to our YouTube channels. Give us a follow, give us a like, give us a share. It helps us in our missions and we would greatly appreciate it. And let me just say one more thing Every time you follow us or share our content, you help a small Somalian child get the resources they need. Very small, the smallest one.

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The smallest one to one who needs the most care. So I mean you're doing something good. He looks like a fucking pencil.

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He's like infinitely small.

Speaker 1:

The tiniest boy.

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He was prematurely born by 90 weeks. It's so small.

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But he's hanging in there and he needs your support. If you support us, you're supporting him. His name is benji. He's a great fucking dude.

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He's pretty cool, solid.

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Such a solid guy, you fit him in your fucking pocket oddly enough, he'll be doing the race, uh, and then he'll be doing the uh misogi challenge of security hall. Uh, he's an endurance machine, but he also needs your help. Um, there's a lot of specialty care for someone his size just think he lives in an iron lung he's able to come out periodically.

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It's the smallest iron lung on the planet dear, dear boy.

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we love him. So I'm Danny Caballero. Thank you for tuning in. We'll see you all next time. Till then, take care. Thanks for tuning in and don't forget to like, follow, share, subscribe and review us on your favorite podcast platform. If you want to support us, head on over to buymeacoffeecom, forward slash SecHawk podcast and buy us a coffee. Connect with us on Instagram X or TikTok and share your thoughts or questions about today's episode. You can also visit securityhawkcom for exclusive content resources and updates, and remember we get through this together. You can also visit securityhawkcom for exclusive content resources and updates, and remember we get through this together. If you're still listening the episode's over. Yeah, there's no more Tune in tomorrow or next week. Thank you.

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