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Culture Clash: Military Deployments, Music, & Gym Culture – With Liam Cogan
What happens when you mix military deployments, pop culture blind spots, metal-country fusion, and gym culture? You get one of the most hilarious and insightful conversations yet on Security Halt!
In this high-energy episode, Deny Caballero sits down with Liam Cogan to discuss everything from the cultural disconnect of missing pop culture during deployments to how music impacts focus, discipline, and fitness. They also dive into the evolution of country music, the idea of blending metal and country (Deathklock meets Nashville?), and the influence of social media on modern youth.
But that's not all—Deny and Liam take a raw and unfiltered look at the challenges of body image in the veteran community, the fitness industry's obsession with perfection, and why parenting in today's digital world requires a whole new level of accountability. Expect laughs, deep insights, and real talk on what truly defines success beyond internet fame.
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Chapters
00:00 Zoolander: A Mixed Bag of Humor
02:57 Cultural Disconnect: The Impact of Deployment
05:58 Pop Culture Shock: Missing Out on Trends
09:03 The Evolution of Country Music
11:56 Metal and Country: A Unique Fusion
15:01 Death Metal and Humor: The Death Clock Phenomenon
22:14 The Power of Music in Focus
25:02 Finding Flow Through Music
27:35 Veteran Brands and Community Support
29:30 Navigating Social Media Anxiety
32:25 Accountability in the Veteran Community
35:35 The Gym Culture and Body Image
39:05 The Impact of Social Media on Youth
45:05 The Role of Fathers in Shaping Values
49:32 The Illusion of Fame and Success
54:09 The Reality of Content Creation
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Speaker 2:Boy what.
Speaker 3:So have you seen that new Zoolander? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know why it got so much shit. Yeah, did you think it was good?
Speaker 1:I didn't think it was as good as the first one.
Speaker 3:There were some funny moments. There was some corny acting like yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry to take a shot at you, ben, but that was corny. Like you did a lot of insanely corny shit where it was like oh, the homage to the last movie and he kind of did you notice that he kind of forgot how to do the voice, yeah, dude Right, Like it did not Dude.
Speaker 1:You waited too fucking long.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like, but it's, it's so weird, dude Cause I mean, yeah, you listen to a bit like audio of you when you you had 10 years apart, your voice changes a little bit. But dude, the fact that he was like I don't know man, mean he, he like he peaked. How do you lose that right? Like I can get the zoolander voice because I like zoolander so much. How's ben stiller?
Speaker 2:so quotable.
Speaker 3:What is this? A center for ads, the center for children who can't read and want to do other stuff. Good too dude yeah, my favorite is uh, the company, the hand model oh my god, dude dave, the company in that movie is unbelievable. Where? He's just like he's got in a fucking chamber, dude, could you imagine?
Speaker 2:I know that hand.
Speaker 3:I know that hand. Oh god, what was the Cover?
Speaker 1:of Vogue magazine 1994.
Speaker 3:He's like, oh my god, you're the greatest hand model who ever lived. And he's got it in a chamber Like it's going on a deep dive. That's insane dude.
Speaker 1:He steps on it oh man fuck, what a flick I don't care if you guys listening are not laughing at this. This is the funniest fucking shit man this is for us this is I need this you.
Speaker 3:You may enjoy it or not dude, I remember, I can't, I can't remember how old. How old is that movie? Is that like a 2000? Is that like a 2005?
Speaker 1:oh dude oh 506. Think Zoolander. There's a lot of like one of his model friends from the beginning 2001.
Speaker 3:Dude 01?, Like 2000 to 2002, was insane Dude it came out on September 28th 2001., Whoa, what a moment.
Speaker 1:The entire world is mourning.
Speaker 2:And then the next, peter Boggs.
Speaker 3:That's crazy, dude. The fucking balls on that production team. Like you, literally you see a country mourn and get ready for war, like generations of men are about to become warriors and you're just like, should we fucking? Still send it send it, send it anyways send it marty, marty, send it get this over to paramount we need it. We need it more than ever. Wow, dude holy shit.
Speaker 1:So let me get this straight let's, let's, go jump into the google time machine I think the first team on the ground for recon was a Navy SEAL team. I think there it was a SEAL team.
Speaker 3:It's probably right East coast or West coast. Team Dude, that was a weird time.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So they probably well, yeah, I mean because the the the West coast was already um, I don't know they might have already been deploying to the Middle East.
Speaker 1:I want to. I know we have a Green Berets that went there, the fucking Triple Nickel but I thought. I thought that there was a fucking SEAL team that went in ahead and did some recon.
Speaker 3:It's probably right and they missed it. They missed Zoolander oh god damn.
Speaker 1:It's an ad for Teemu, hang on oh nice.
Speaker 3:what are you gonna get? Are you gonna get a dude? I don't know how many times I'm going to have to look it was CIA guys.
Speaker 1:It was 15 days after the attack and 9-11 carried three pilots and seven CIA officers from Special Activities Division Sad.
Speaker 2:Special Activities.
Speaker 1:Well they were. They were extremely sad because they missed out on opening day of Zoolander.
Speaker 3:The sad division. Why are you guys the sad division? It's a historical name are you? It used to be SAT, we used to be the special activities team, but then we deployed. Right before Zoolander came out, we renamed the commercials. We knew it was good then we got home and everyone was quoting it.
Speaker 2:We started quoting it too late we didn't know who the fuck Mugatu was. You get home and everything's changed. Man, I've seen war, bro.
Speaker 3:I didn't know who the fuck Mugatu was. You get home and everything's changed, man. I've seen war, bro. I didn't even know who fucking Mugatu was, man.
Speaker 1:Some dude has fucking PTSD from missing out on portable moments.
Speaker 3:Dude. Hey, man, when you go to get your VA rating and you have that 15 minute, I mean it's 15 minutes. They have to talk to so many people and they only have so many psychs who are qualified. You got 15 minutes to say what really matters. And if there's someone out there like, let them know what movies you missed, yeah, that's reality.
Speaker 1:I remember so I did two, like really I did the year-long reps in, uh, iraq and coming back from that, from both those back-to-back deployments you missed out on so much, I remember like pop culture was so fucking weird, like coming back to shit, that I was like what, what, what are you guys talking about an entire year of like movies and shit.
Speaker 3:Well, dude, I mean there's there's a lot of validity to that. Uh, I never had a year-long deployment, so I can't say that like I felt that culture shock. But I mean, even in the span of you know, like a seven month or an eight month deployment, you come back and you're like you know what? It doesn't happen right away, but in a month or like three months, someone will say something like some movie or some tv show. You'd be like what the fuck are you talking about, dude? Or, especially dude, how much shit did you miss from boot camp through, like basically your first deployment? Oh yeah, like you. There you're in a vacuum of no information and I remember the entire your family changes. People have different opinions on stuff, the zeitgeist of American times are different, and then you come out of your little K-hole and you're like all right, I'm going to turn the TV on and figure something out. You're like what the fuck is Game of Thrones? This shit looks gay. And everyone's like no, no, no, it's awesome. It's awesome, dude, check it out.
Speaker 1:Meanwhile, every other scene is nothing but fucking peen dude. Just so much pain. That's why it's so good.
Speaker 2:Weena, weena, weena, weena.
Speaker 1:The dragons never came.
Speaker 3:Fucking ten seasons waiting for dragons. Dude. Oh man, Talk about disappointment too, Because the first what was it Like? The first two seasons of that were like kind of sick Because you had Khal Drogo. You're like, oh dude, you've got this absolute hitter, this unit of a dude and he's just taking hot chicks when he wants them. And then there's this chick and she's complaining and you hate her, and then she becomes the main character.
Speaker 3:Yeah dude, oh yeah what a miss and the the hot sex scenes are uh, oh, my god, the, the I'm gonna rape you scenes, but you're gonna like it too, scene.
Speaker 1:Is that what you're talking?
Speaker 3:about.
Speaker 1:I feel like we were trying to normalize something. I'm like this is fucking weird, and there's George RR Martin Like blah blah, blah he's like finally I get to see it.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's exactly what I thought.
Speaker 1:Finally, that fucking stupid cap dude, god dude, give it a rest, dude hey, george rr martin, he's gotta smell like piss and like salt and vinegar chips dude dude, that's exactly what you think you're like.
Speaker 3:Hey, I get it, you rich. But you're also wearing a tweed jacket and a tweed hat every day. You smell like cat pee and mothballs for sure, 100%.
Speaker 1:Dude, just take a shower. Just take a shower, go for a walk, drop a couple pounds, you'll feel good.
Speaker 3:You'll get to riding more you know, I'll say just just on the shower thing I take showers, so that's not where I'm going. But the smell thing, dude, so I don't use like a lot of deodorant and I don't use any like cologne. Okay, I'm more of like a a natural smell kind of guy. I'll take my shower, I'll work out, take a shower. That's kind of like my, my baseline smell. We're going out, I'll throw on some deodorant that doesn't have, you know, aluminum in it and uh, it's bad for you anyways, right and um, but every once in a while I'll smell a dude who smells real bad, right, and you smell.
Speaker 3:And then you smell someone who smells like way too smelly. Yeah, and you're like to that guy. To the smelly smell guy, like, do I smell bad? Am I the stinky guy? To this guy, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:He's going through a smell inception.
Speaker 3:Dude. Yeah right, I'm trying to get into his dreams and then implant in his dream to find out if my dream? I don't stink Do I, stink Do I.
Speaker 2:Which one of us thinks dude.
Speaker 1:If the, if the tech behind inception was real, could you imagine what bros would do to each other?
Speaker 2:I need to go into his head and make him be gay. He has to think that he's always been gay what would you, uh, what would?
Speaker 3:what would you put in the? You know like. You know how they like, make him like, so they've got to go through all the dream, like the whole story is basically like I've got to figure out who this guy is so I can get a pin wheel and lock it in his brain. You know, like that was like the last thing, sorry if you haven't seen it. Uh, the end is there's a pinwheel and you've had enough time.
Speaker 1:If you haven't seen it by now, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 3:I really gave it away to. What would you, what would you put in your boy's mind safe to make him gay, like what's the?
Speaker 1:signed DVD copy of Brokeback Mountain. And when he opens it is like a personalized message from jason. There's a. There's a note. You were the inspiration to this magnus opus of my acting career. You're gay he knows his gayness is so profound. It's the movie, it's so profound.
Speaker 3:It influenced the movie. Okay, here's a controversial thought. Is that why Heath Ledger's dead? Is that why God took him first? Dude, because we know Jake was giving it right.
Speaker 1:I never seen the movie but, I, think Jake Gyllenhaal looks like the person that would be taking it.
Speaker 3:I know, I think that is how it went too, so maybe that's good for him, that's why he's not dead, I don't know. But I will say that the one thing I know of that movie and maybe you don't know this and you should look it up, okay, because you're a bit of a meme lord, you know, you're a lot of a meme lord. You're always finding these clips. There is a scene if you haven't seen it, so I haven't seen the movie, but we did show it, so I've seen part of it Be clear.
Speaker 2:Neither of us have seen this movie and I'm going to put like a little template here.
Speaker 3:Here's the size of the movie. I took that much the first part. You know what I'm saying. And what we did is we showed it to my buddy's dad, who loves Westerns. He's like aggressively straight, you know what I mean Like he's pissed. He's like he's classic straight, like if you're gay, what's going on? And he showed him that movie and I remember me and my buddy knew what was going on and it was our sisters that were showing him the movie and so we left the room. We're like I don't, I don't want to watch this. So we watched the very beginning to make it believable. And then it's like okay, two kids are gonna go off and play.
Speaker 3:And then you hear like in like an hour later, maybe like 30 minutes later, he just goes what the fuck and I'm pretty sure it's the same scene that I'm talking about right now that I want you to find one of them I can't remember who it is. I've seen this clip because it's insane. I had to verify that this happened and it wasn't like some sort of like AI construction. One of them was like this they're teeing up the other dude and he just goes. I'm not, that was in a Western. He literally is behind him, their shirts are off and shit, and he just goes. And you're like, oh, you know what I mean like you're the guy editing you're, you're the guy editing the movie and you're like, well, even better.
Speaker 1:Yet you're, you're the, the sound guy, you're the composer coming up with the, the score for the film, and you come up to that scene. What music.
Speaker 3:You're talking about when they're in the background and they're wobbling shit for thunderstorms Like that guy.
Speaker 1:The Foley, the FX guy, I would get a good spit on a hand.
Speaker 2:I'm like they're just recording.
Speaker 1:Alright, in three, two.
Speaker 3:He's right up to the mic. He's making like he's doing different takes like go back go back.
Speaker 1:I think I got a better one, you know, and, oddly enough, that year that movie got the Emmy for best sound design.
Speaker 2:Just beautiful.
Speaker 3:They give an applause at the end and he's just like, yeah, that's exactly what I did. I can't believe that's like a western.
Speaker 1:It's so funny when stuff like that happens, like beyonce's got like the country album of the year and like you see how the fuck did that happen?
Speaker 3:dude bro, you look at her face she's satan, she's saying look at her face when she got it. She's like oh, I oh shocked me well, if I'm off, she floats over to like she doesn't walk anymore to the awards because she gets so tired. They just put little wires on her at the beginning of the night and they lift her from her table and just drop her to pick up a reward like a little uh, like a little crane game. Dude, that was so bizarre so strong, so wonderful beyonce dude, I mean right there.
Speaker 1:That's why the cmas bro, dude, it's so fucking crazy. Like it's a. I'm not a big country music fan. I found, now that I'm older, I found a few songs where I'm like, yeah, dude, like this is pretty good, I could listen to this and to me it's such a staple of american culture and americana, regardless of how you feel about the genre like that's a slap in the fucking face. Like there's tons of fucking country artists out there that, like making great music, have huge fucking fandoms. And for beyonce to just waltz in and be like, yeah, no, I'm country now, like that to me just seems fucking stupid.
Speaker 2:It'd be like.
Speaker 1:Hank. Hank William Jr came out with a rap album and gets rap album of the year. You'd be pissed about that too.
Speaker 3:It'd be stupid, it'd be really dumb, it'd be really stupid. It'd be really stupid. I mean we should do that. Yeah, well, dude, I mean so okay. So we should do that. Yeah, well, dude, I mean so okay. So what is it about country that?
Speaker 1:you're not what. What is your? What is your brand like? What is I, dude I like a lot of different mixes. Metal, electronica uh, lots of hip-hop, old school hip-hop. Um, ramstein, like dude I, I can get down with some rammstein. Uh, I'm talking like old, like fucking b cuts of the prodigy, like fucking just weird shit from drum and bass uh, just weird. I'm everywhere but I've never been really big in the country. But I can appreciate it now. I can completely appreciate it and see it's in, uh, its influence across so many different genres. It's true, it's there I think, so here's.
Speaker 3:Here's something that I've wanted to do. I'm pretty I'm pretty good on instruments. I was raised my dad was a musician. I was raised playing lots of instruments. Um, what I really want to do is I want to put together metal, country, okay it, just it hasn't been done. And here's here's my issue with both brands, like country is oh, there's too many love songs, yeah for me like or heartbreak songs just yeah, that's kind of like.
Speaker 3:The genre to me is like there's this huge portion of heartbreak, love songs, like song about a girl, and I think that's why it's so popular with girls, right, and I'm fine with that. However, when you go back to like the country guys I really respect, it wasn't about love songs, it was about being a hard, hard body. You know, yeah and um, like you look at a lot of Hank Williams jr and a lot of uh, um, I wouldn't even say that era right, because that era has a lot of guys making love songs. But I mean, even if you look at like Hank and William, the outlaw country, as they say.
Speaker 3:Like the outlaw country was so great, and even when you go today into Texas country and red dirt country, like there's all these different brands and they have poetry and they're sweet and they're cool. But I want some grit in my country, you know, and I've been trying for a long time to conceptualize how to take that brand and make it hitter, because also when you go into metal, dude metal is hitter in its sound simpson.
Speaker 1:He, he does some amazing shit that blends it too pretty, fucking rad he does listen to his shit.
Speaker 3:Some of his mixes are really good, yeah, but when you look at metal, sometimes you have a lot of these metal bands like it's such a hitter music style but they're super liberal, like with their lyrics you know what I mean Like it's just like Creedence Clearwater. Everyone's like, yeah, this is quintessential American shit. And it's like it's all about hating Vietnam.
Speaker 1:It's like all super anti-military, it's like. I like the sounds I was raised on. Metal is Death Clock A cartoon metal band.
Speaker 3:So good.
Speaker 1:Till this day.
Speaker 3:Till this day.
Speaker 1:It's in my fucking gym track. I think it's better than cocaine. It's amazing.
Speaker 3:Yeah For getting up pre-workout death clock.
Speaker 1:yeah, elevates your testosterone levels to it's scientifically proven cyborg slayer will give you the hardest boner in the gym if you're into that type of thing, if, if you want to uh, I want to see that you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:I want to see that mix like a lot of dudes with boners and gems listening to country style metal that has like the death clock flavor, where it's like, yeah, what? Like they don't talk about anything. You know what I mean? The lyrics don't really matter, so why do we have to make them gay all the time?
Speaker 1:I know I do like Mermaid. Oh dude. I love the lyrics on that Mermaid, mermaid, mermaid. I'll be saying that shit out loud and people are looking at me like what the fuck?
Speaker 3:Dude, you know how many times I've had like four whiskeys and put on. I can't remember the name of the one about coffee oh yes, coffee one, and it's like the lyrics in yeah, the lyrics in that death clock song are basically like I would rather kill all of you than then.
Speaker 3:Uh, then take a loss this fiscal year like that's one of like the lines like to take it it's taking a loss this fiscal year. Like that's one of like the lines like to take it to take a loss this fiscal year. Or I'd rather you all get burned to death by coffee than like uh, then not consider opening a second restaurant? Yeah, and I'm like dude. Yeah, like I don't care what the lyrics are, I think they're amazing and I'll drink a little and I'll just be like lara, my wife, like I'll like bring her and I'll be like listen to this. So what do you say? She like Laura, my wife, like I'll, I'll like bring her and I'll be like listen to this. So what do you say? She's just like dude, my wife loves death clock.
Speaker 3:It's so awesome.
Speaker 1:I'm married to write one. I'm married to keep her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Dude.
Speaker 3:Laura will entertain it. She's not huge in a metal, but then she'll come to me every once in a while. She one of those people who's like uh, well, a lot of people are like this who don't really pay attention to their brand of music and I'm like really into metal and I really pay attention to new metal and to who's putting out metal and to who's doing the things that I like. And she's like just whatever bangs play it and I'm good because I'm gonna listen to it in the car or at the gym or on the way to the snowboarding. So there's some metal that she's like obsessed with it's weird.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I need, I need it to be. I need riffs and melodies that sort of like. Allow me to fucking hyper focus on something, if that makes any sense. Like you're like yeah, that's why cyborg slayer and um fuck um. You're like, yeah, that's why cyborg slayer and um fuck um. Fuck. What's the other one I listened to on fucking repeat, but it's just like that fucking consistent writing that down.
Speaker 1:If I could listen to that loop over and over and over again, like that's how I do work in the studio, like when I'm doing post-production, I'll have like one headset on and I'll be fucking processing. It's just like that constant. Like I don't know if it's my retarded brain is now like just no, no fucking retarded that I just need to like, fucking, like, yeah, yeah I'm the same.
Speaker 3:I'm the same exact way. I'm the same way. I told lara this the other day uh, like you know, because you're editing, I'm editing, we're doing similar tasks and stuff, yeah, and it's kind of monotonous. You know it needs to be done. You just kind of have to do it and uh, I'm like going through things and it works a lot better if I have something to listen to, something to look at and my work to be done. Yes, like when I have two distractions and something to do, I'm into the thing I'm doing, but if it's just the thing I'm doing, you know, I feel like I'm like in a prison cell.
Speaker 1:I'm just like dude. Yeah, yeah, I, I absolutely so. I need a nootropic and I need something that's like like there's all these like apple playlists for like adhd. It's like, no, like I just need that fucking thing. That's just like. I don't know if it's like it feels like something is like being like jabbed in my brain at the right spot, where it's just like fuck, yeah, like I can yeah?
Speaker 1:I did. I was up to like almost 3 am last night doing, uh, fucking editing and it was just like I did. I wasn't tired or exhausted because I was in that fucking flow state of like I I felt like I was like bad like the only way to describe it's like I was working and doing targeting, like back in, like mission planning, where she's just fucking fully, as the kids say, locked in.
Speaker 2:I'm just like fuck, yeah, yeah bro walk in walk in bro.
Speaker 1:I don't think you kids know what that means no, they say it's like a cup of coffee with two strike energies mixed into it and you fucking drink that shit and then go into palantir and you start figuring out ways to murder people 30 rippets.
Speaker 3:30 rippets and six upper deckers. I'm locked in to something.
Speaker 1:Hell fuck yeah, dude, like I don't. I don't know if strike energy still makes the the you're supposed to pour like open these little packets and pour them into water for energy, but it adds to. Yeah, I will take two of those, dump them into black coffee and just fucking just go to town.
Speaker 3:Um, yeah, it was I know a, a team guy started making god, dude, dude, what do they call it? They, they, they started making something similar, uh like in a little energy pack, was it? Is it frog fuel? It's not. Well, it might be dude. It looks like kind of like our Terrix, like the label on it, I think it's known for yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:That's probably it, because it came out and it was something before that, it was Striker or something, and then they switched it up because it was too close to something, whatever it was. I just know that a dude in my platoon I think my first go, his buddy owned it. So they just were like, yeah, let's send these guys with 18 boxes of them. And everyone's doing a math and it's like all right, we got like 35 guys, we've got 80 boxes of 100 and we've got 300 days. All right, so everyone's got it down six of these a day.
Speaker 2:You're like there's no choice, you have to. They literally sent it for us that's waste dude.
Speaker 1:That's same thing with black raffle coffee man. Like everybody, like people have like um varying like opinions on them, but I I still fucking love that brand for what they do for yeah especially green berets, and they do it for everybody.
Speaker 1:You just write them a letter if you're deployed. They won't just send one box or like two things of coffee. They will send you so much fucking coffee you will literally die before you drink all of it. And that's what they did for us, like every time we reached out to them they sent fucking coffee, not just more on like a shitload.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you can't beat that dude.
Speaker 1:The fuck up.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, people get kind of dude. I'm glad you brought people getting all like wrapped around the axle around small shit all the time, especially with, like, the veteran community and veteran brands. It's such a weird thing but everyone feels like they have a legitimate claim on anything anyone in the veteran community does. It's like hey look man, I was in the Army for two years, did admin the whole time. You know, I can't believe they're acting this way. I would never expect that from someone who went to boot camp. It's like that's all you did and I'm not trying to like compare anyone.
Speaker 2:And they put on their veteran hat before they post it, here I go again. Time for me to save the world. First of all, Battle Buddy, let me tell you I don't have your six. I know that's harsh.
Speaker 3:I do not have your six. I will not call you out. I will not. I am not your swim, buddy brother.
Speaker 2:I did you, just got it. You got. On. The wrong side of this is grudel veteran you know what I've started.
Speaker 3:You know, what I started doing is in comment sections. This used to give me anxiety, actually, and it might give other people anxiety too, because there's there's like the anticipation of a fight and maybe it's like kind of how our brains are miswired these days. But like I will send something online and I'm like just waiting for them to get back at me. Dude, oh, like, dude, say something. Yeah, oh, why are you out here to beat you up and um?
Speaker 3:all expense paid, trip brother right If anyone's dealing with that. I took a page out of my wife's book and instead of being holier than thou and just being like all right, I just deleted all my social media. You don't have to Just comment on everything, everything that you think needs to be sassed. Sass everything, because that's what they're all doing. It's like being a troll, but you're just just make a funny joke about everything and then the anxiety, like that anxious feeling about getting back and forth with someone, kind of goes away, because there's just like 80 different videos that I've commented on and made fun of and now it's, it's gone. So even if someone says something, like this morning the new secretary of the VA, doug Collins, yeah.
Speaker 3:Seems to be like he's getting good. He seems like a good guy because he's getting as as the seat or the secretary of the VA. He has an insane amount of shit to do, especially right now with hirings, firings, and this is all federally directed, above his pay grade. He's just got to make it happen. Who's got to go? How do they go? How do we fix the budget and what do we do to continue helping veterans and continue benefit paths forward? And it's like they're a couple weeks in.
Speaker 3:I actually covered this on a video that I put out and it's like it's cool to see absolutely dude and I'm trying to put out some like new, different ways to consume veterans benefits information and especially with, like, the way it's so dynamic right now, it's nice to just know, like, do I get more college, do I get less college? Do I have to do this? But Doug Collins is getting out there and he's talking to us and I look in the comments and it's people just fucking pissed You're. We don't want to hear you talk about this and gaslight us. We want to hear about the 1400 veterans that were disabled that you let go. It's like, hey, buddy, first of all, okay.
Speaker 3:Number one did you look up how many people work for the VA? Yeah. Number two did you look up how many people work for the VA? Yeah. Number two did you look up what any of those people do? And number three when you sign the dotted line, you weren't signing to get disability and then never have to secure your own future, right, if you are working a job, there's two ways you lose that job Do a bad job or, unfortunately, you get genned out by tech and or by tech or different administrative stuff. It's the federal government. So if this new administration doesn't care, care about DEI stuff and you're in a DEI position. Sorry, dude, that's that's it. Sorry, dude, that's it. There's no like. But he was a disabled veteran. You should just pay him for the job that he literally is not allowed to do. Sorry, that was such a rant, but, dude, I just feel so bad.
Speaker 1:People need to understand that there is so much waste, fraud and abuse, waste, fraud and abuse, and I think my wife said it best. The things had to get this bad for the united states, the mass vast majority of americans, to wake up and vote for a counterculture, vote against what was the status quo of the time, and I'm here for it. Look, look, we're seeing what happens when a country is managed poorly by people that wanted to feel good Feelings don't get things done, and now people are having to be held accountable, and I can empathize with people losing their jobs, except for USID, because you guys are fucking worthless. Us id, because you guys are fucking worthless. Every last one of you, your subcontractors, you, everything that you've done for the past 20 fucking years needs to come to light, and if you're listening to it, I hope, I, I hope everything bad happens to you and you alone.
Speaker 1:everything I hope you stub your toe every morning.
Speaker 3:I hope you're comfy with a scooter dude, you better watch the fuck out. I hope you hit your ankle with a scooter Razor scooters are in and these kids are going to be twirling them around right next to your shin, buddy boy.
Speaker 1:Deal with it. That's your future. Watch your front.
Speaker 3:Dude, don't watch your back, Watch your front, your shins.
Speaker 1:Speaking of ultimate scootering bro, I saw a fucking five minute compilation of this dude just fucking ripping it a fucking razor scooter not even like, like, like satire, but like legit, and there's like a hype music reel to it.
Speaker 3:I'm like oh, yeah, yeah dude listen. Healing razors are back. Hey, message to this generation stop scootering and quit broccoli in your hair and going in the gym and making videos yeah, making videos that are like you know maturity. When you stop doing this and you start doing this, it's like you're 11. You're 11. You get your fucking hair permed. You're small. You're working out in a planet fitness. Yeah, why? Why would I take advice from you?
Speaker 1:yeah, you're getting. You're getting like fucking you're getting health advice from a 30-year-old man with back acne and early onset balding. Dude, you're a kid, go back to play with Legos.
Speaker 2:I wish I could do that too, go back.
Speaker 3:I'm so ready to piss some people off right now.
Speaker 2:But like Do it, do it, let the hate flow through you Anyway.
Speaker 3:That's the best micro clip of any movie. That had just so much unintended utility.
Speaker 3:Well, so when I got out, I went immediately into partnering with my cousin in franchising Crunch Fitnesses. It was pretty cool, but the dynamics of the situation changed so fast. We got in in 2020, okay, so just imagine that. And then my cousin, who is the you know, the cash flow partner, because he wanted to cash flow the whole thing himself, um, could have done it in 2019. Unfortunately, 2020 happened and parts and labor and everything just goes up exponentially and you're paying for real estate for six months because, uh, exercise was not important, but candy was, because, you know, yeah, the health systems are good to go. Man, rfk jr's crazy. That guy's a psychopath. You know, handy producing candy. Anyone who doesn't know this? I met the legit um, what are those people who go to the? Go out to washington and they lobbyist, and they, I was gonna say, and they lobby for shit.
Speaker 1:Um, tip of my tongue.
Speaker 3:Fuck me in the ass fuck fuck me, but I met the lobbyist for Big Candy Like the big time lobbyist for Big Candy.
Speaker 1:Please tell me he was fat as fuck, diabetic, just a grease ball.
Speaker 3:No, no, it was a chick and she's super aggressive, like a super A type chick, and so the reason I met her was at the Crunch Fitness franchise meetup where all the owners all go meet up. We have like a weekend of learning shit that you learn every single week but all together sick. And I sat with her for lunch and she's just like yeah, no, candy didn't shut down because I made sure I went and lobbied and it was an essential business and she's like the closest anything candy related got to shutting down during COVID any plants. So people are physically going in and producing candy massive plants, not just the sales and the just everything was open. And the closest it got was like there was somewhere in Chicago and somewhere in Pennsylvania, two different plants, and she went there boots on the ground and made sure it didn't happen. They all stayed open.
Speaker 3:So the gym, the fitness industry, is like, okay, our lobbyist sucks balls, let's get this chick who literally made a bid for poison to continue. It makes people happy, so legit. So I met her, talked to her, told her I hate candy and everything she did for the past life, and she's like well, I'm your new lobbyist and I was like. I was like well, good on you, but it's not like a moral thing for you. I respect what you do as a professional, but what you did?
Speaker 1:is you know you're a piece of shit you're an asshole shit.
Speaker 3:That's basically what I hate you however, comma, I need your powers I have. However, help me, help me help me please but to, to.
Speaker 3:I don't want to belabor the point, but so I meet this lady, learn all that shit, and then I'm in this gym industry and I'm going through like all the franchise fitness stuff and I'm seeing the way that this like gym culture is right. And I'm in tennessee and I see broccoli heads before they were broccoli heads I mean just like brand new broccoli bribe dude. This new generation, I got like this close-up, look at them and they just love bodybuilding. They're obsessed. I don't remember anyone really. I knew one guy who, who knew what it was, but in high school none of us really even cared to to bodybuild.
Speaker 1:We just wanted to get big yeah, like no matter, how that mattered yeah, it's actually a really, really shitty sad thing that's going on to like and it's all due social social media, these young boys. We tend to think that body dysmorphia only affects girls and for a larger percentage, it is an issue that's affecting our young girls more so. But young boys are starting to see all these dudes on social media talking about success, talking about women and showing off their workout routine, showing off their six pack and how jacked they are. What young kids don't realize is your body is still growing and developing and teenage kids, young teenage kids, young boys, see all this success, see all this fame and they think, oh, that's what I need to look at.
Speaker 1:And you're seeing younger kids these days trying to achieve the physique of a grown adult male and you see they're capturing it on social media like, oh, we're gonna get on sarm, we're gonna get on trend, and they're fucking 10, 12, like they don't understand that their body's still maturing. They don't understand like, oh, yeah, you're not gonna put on size and definition because you haven't hit puberty yet. And they're documented. They're documenting all the health issues and the kids are saying like I'd rather be jack now and getting fucking swole and looking good, looking fit and worry about the health benefits. Later on we're going to start seeing a lot of kids with real serious health issues because they're on fucking gear before they hit fucking puberty. Dude it's fucking insane.
Speaker 3:The thing that I really don't fucking get with all of it it's not the kids, it's the adults. Yeah, the dudes that are adults in this industry, like I had a guy walk up to me in the gym. I'm the chief operating officer of a multi-gym franchise and I had a dude walk up to me oh, dude, and he just goes. Yeah, man, you know you should probably like I'm in here every day. You should probably get these different machines.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to hit like the smaller muscles in my back and I was like, bro, I hate you. You're in here every day at the lowest level membership and you're abusing my equipment. Why would you think that I want your opinion? The best member are the 60% of the people who have memberships here, who come one to two times every three months. I don't like you. You suck. I like them. They're better. Just understand that a big commercial gym isn't building it for juice heads. I'm building it to be a safe environment so everyone wants to come because it makes you more money yeah, not just catering to one fucking dipshit that thinks oh shit, I dropped something.
Speaker 3:Check check fire, check fire, check fire oh no, oh fuck, oh fuck fuck.
Speaker 2:Shit shit.
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Speaker 3:Oh, dude. But this all culminates All this confusion. All these lame people. Yeah, boys are looking up to them and yeah, they're looking up to some soft guys too, but I think generally, at a broader level, they're looking up to these dudes. And what do these guys do professionally? Describe it to me.
Speaker 2:They're salesmen.
Speaker 3:They get spray tans and wear bikinis in front of men who judge them.
Speaker 1:Yep, Dude, that's so gay yeah contestant number two, and it's definitely not a not around and flex your glutes one more time, and it's always. Have you ever seen the judges in in these competitions? Like? All right, let's take a look hot butthole all right, uh, contest number three go ahead. And uh, you turn around as well and flex each cheek independently, please yeah, you with the prolapsed asshole, could you suck that in?
Speaker 1:all right we think we made our choice, like parading around for another men trying to figure out the striation of his hamstring next to his penis. There you see that nice, nice contestant number one come closer small to medium-sized hog, as they say.
Speaker 3:It's nice it's just weird, dude. It's just like to say you're like an alpha male and your profession is to get skinny, malnutrient, like malnourished, do a bunch of gear and then get a spray tan, wear a bikini and call it a fucking. It's not a sport, it's definitely a performing art. Okay, so you're like a theater kid fucking lame it is lame dude.
Speaker 3:I mean, if you want to like, if you're a kid and you're idolizing someone in the gym, look at some of these dudes who are like ripping like a 700 deadlift and then running 10 miles like at like a seven minute pace, that's cool. I mean. There are plenty of guys out there doing it. They don't have as many followers as the dudes putting g-strings in their buttholes and then after glutes tight.
Speaker 1:It's weird, man, these young kids, man they have, um, they have a lot that's coming at them on social media, on their phones, and it. That's why I always tell people the most important thing you can do is be an effective present father to your kids especially your young boys man because you know what you? You're a dad and you see your son like oh yeah, fuck yeah. Look at this dude. You're like slap the phone out of his hand and be like go outside and start chopping some wood you just made go.
Speaker 3:You, denny. You just made potentially the revelation of this generation, this whole generation of like lifter, like being a bodybuilder is cool generation. Um, they're strippers, they're the, they're modern day strippers, like they're not getting hugs from their daddies, yeah, and they're turning weird and gay yeah, and they're.
Speaker 1:They're not getting out there and doing cool things with their dads. Like, imagine if, if you're, if you're a young boy and your Saturdays are filled with going out hunting with your dad, going backpacking, going, going playing a sport with your dad doing something hey dad, teach me how to do this. You're in a garage, your dad doing, and he's not beating the shit out of you and throwing stuff at you for not holding the flashlight right, um, so you know, hopefully it's you know, not your, your situation.
Speaker 1:Um, and if you're, yeah, like it, it it's ultimately the parents issue and it has to be you have to be present in your kid's life If they, if you're a dad that's out and I see him. I see enough from our community and I see dads are going there teaching their kids how to do three gun comps. Dude, there's a guy on my page who has a fucking Falcon. I think he was a special forces medic. He has a fucking Falcon. He's taking his kids to go hunt, go camping, go out in the wild. I think he even taught he does free fall with one of his kids. Like that's a fucking dad, like he's old enough to now has an adult child and they do free fall shit like skydiving. Like you guarantee their kids aren't on social media looking at some fucking broken dude flexing his fucking glutes he's flexing his butthole.
Speaker 3:Let's be real. What do you?
Speaker 1:guys think on this, live my glutes looking good like that should not be the person raising your kids. You know, and if you're a dad out there and you're struggling like finding the time to figure out, like how to be more present, figure it out, work your ass off to try to figure it out, because the world's going to raise them. If it's not you and it's not your wife, the world's going to raise them. And then you're going to see your kid watching Andrew Tate and you're going to realize, fuck, my kid's going into a fucking asshole.
Speaker 1:And then you're going to look at his feed and it's nothing but Andrewrew tate talking about alpha mentality when that dude hasn't fucking done a damn shit worthwhile.
Speaker 3:Like you have to be an alpha also like a thing about this generation is they don't understand the difference between money-making professions and things that make you feel good about yourself. I'm building, and you are too. We're building an internet presence around helping people that we care about. And then we go do shit with our own lives and you look at like, oh yeah, well, Mr Beast is putting out his step-by-step Logan Paul put out like this video about, like how to get big on the internet. Listen, dude, I grew up maybe 40 miles away from where Logan Paul did Same exact age.
Speaker 3:We graduated high school at the same time. I know the high school he went to. We probably met once or twice. I would never in a million years switch my life of making no fucking money but serving my country and doing something fucking genuinely cool to lifting and acting like an absolute loser to get clicks. And they, they run around and they're like dude, that guy doesn't get it. Like we're, we're out here, those are my chicks. Like these are instagram models. And's like you're seeing a clip of something that is being produced to make you think it's fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Go, go like, use your critical thinking brain, go outside and report back to me Like if you had a dirt bike, some guns you had, you know you went hunting, you had a trip to do, you went fishing, you caught a fish. You go do anything with your body, Go outside, Go for a run, Go lift, Go anything, Literally anything and you tell me what is more rewarding? That or clicks a reward. So you see all these people and it's like, yeah, I want to be like that guy. I want to be like that guy. It's like you need to find people like us who are the same age. The same guy chose something different and I there's, there's not a question in my mind. I would not change that. That guy looks like an absolute loser to me. I don't respect him. I know every soft guy doesn't respect him. You know those are real men. We're confused right now, it seems.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it seems Our culture prioritizes a lot of glitzy, crazy stuff and put it on a pillar, but at the end of the day, like you're right, man, I think it makes sometimes people feel bad that they're not, they don't have that, they're not able to attain that, that they're not, uh, they don't have that, they're not able to attain that. And and it's the reality is like be fortunate, be glad you're not, because at the end of the day, you're a slave. If you look at logan paul and jake paul, they are a slave to being a cuck and dipshit. They, they forever have to continue doing that they have. They haven't built anything worth of substance. They haven't put food on the table of. You know busy, you know they're not like a business owner that's working his ass off trying to fucking make make a living. Make you make enough money to take care of his employees, to pay his guys, to produce a product.
Speaker 1:Their entire existence is based on attention span and they figure and, yeah, I'll give credit to them. They figured out a way to continue leeching off the American attention span. But the moment we get tired of them as a collective, the moment we no longer want to pay to see these dipshits. They disappear. They will cease to exist, but they understand that there is money in being the most hated individuals, and that's what they've turned themselves into. They've turned themselves into the most iconic American heels, which, if you're not familiar with that term, it's a term that wrestlers use to talk about the bad guys, because nobody loves the bad guy more than the WWF, wwe wrestling fanatics. There's money in it. The Paul brothers figured it out.
Speaker 1:The more obnoxious, the more arrogant that's literally what they are.
Speaker 3:He literally transitioned so easily.
Speaker 1:You look back at their career and where it started and how they started getting fame and it naturally progressed into like disney and stuff like that, where they were, these little kids, the little they're, all they're the lovable mischiefs. But when that ran out, when nobody wanted to see that anymore, what did they turn into? The asshole? People wanted to see that and once they realized they could capitalize on on that, that's why they did the tyson fight. That's why they're doing these boxing promotions. Yes, it takes a lot of work to fucking learn how to box. It takes a lot of commitment, a lot of hard work. Guarantee absolutely would never take that away from them. But at the basis, at its core level, they understood that they could sell themselves being a piece of shit. I don't want to make money like that, like there's, there's nothing. Nobody wants to wake up and look in the mirror and say, wow, like I'm a fucking joke I'm being a cock sucking, cum guzzling piece of fucking shit.
Speaker 1:And that's what they did. And some people want they want to, they want to attain that, no matter the cost. But I, I don't want to do that. I don't want to suck, come uh out of america's proverbial dick from nine to five just to make a fucking million dollars some people right the pa brothers.
Speaker 3:May that's their thing, that you know now if I got an offer and nobody knew I had to do it? It was a secret, nobody could see me do it now we're back to broke back mountain.
Speaker 1:So aggressive, full circle moment. It's a full circle I will say though, dude I like kogan.
Speaker 3:Thank you for coming back on that's um no, I was just saying like that's yeah, that's it, you nailed it like that's what's going on. You can guzzle, cum for lots of money these days, easy from home you can from home, from the cupboard of your own living room.
Speaker 1:I mean, you can start an app. There's an app right now where you can do that what do you do? There's a woman right now where you can do that. What do you do, oh?
Speaker 2:there's a, there's a woman right now that that just made.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's like the same thing, dude yeah, dude, yeah it's literally the only fans on a greater scale.
Speaker 1:Hell, yeah, man. Well, thank you for a fucking coming on today, man. I'm glad we finally able to make it. Um, to all y'all tuning in. You can uh go to the episode description and check out all the links for liam's at these days and check out his helpful hints on navigating the va system education system, just being a really good, awesome dude. Um, spoiler alert if you like liam, get used to seeing him a lot more on the security halt. Uh, it's just a really cool guy and I enjoy talking with him and helps pass the time from having to uh sit here and edit videos silently as I cry.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's a lot of crying and editing videos for all of you who want to get out and pursue something like this. It's gay, it sucks, dude.
Speaker 2:You have to learn how to do so much shit. Don't do it, dude. It's hard, don't do it.
Speaker 3:Or come join me and there's a lot more time, a lot more spend Bro. Yeah, it's a ball buster.
Speaker 1:But it's worth it yeah.
Speaker 3:It's worth it to get the 57 hate comments.
Speaker 2:You get in your inbox every day. Oh God, do I love them.
Speaker 3:I love them so much.
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