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#225: Navy Seal & Green Beret Insights: Navigating the Military Transition and Veteran Life Challenges

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#225: Navy Seal & Green Beret Insights: Navigating the Military Transition and Veteran Life Challenges

Dive into an eye-opening conversation between retired Green Beret Deny Caballero and former Navy SEAL Liam Cogan as they unpack the complex journey of veterans transitioning to civilian life. From the unique challenges faced in farming and economic struggles to the mental health impact of shifting lifestyles, this episode explores it all. With insights from their RV travels and reflections on building community, they highlight the importance of understanding veterans' benefits, education, and the support systems that can make a difference. Discover the critical role of nutrition, health, and continuous learning in the transition process, and hear unique perspectives on conspiracy theories and critical thinking. Don’t miss this engaging discussion that connects Navy Seals, Green Berets, and veterans from all walks of life. 

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 Chapters

00:00 Farming Experience and Challenges

02:59 Economic Realities of Farming

06:11 The Importance of Farmers

08:59 Life on the Road: RV Adventures

12:04 Cultural Reflections and Community

15:02 Mental Health and Support Systems

17:59 Invisible Wounds Foundation

21:03 Transitioning to Civilian Life

24:09 Navigating Mental Health

27:07 The Role of Nutrition and Health

29:52 Understanding Benefits and Education

32:49 The MBA Journey

35:58 Conspiracy Theories and Critical Thinking

37:50 Building a Media Company

43:02 Final Thoughts and Movie Quotes 

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Speaker 1:

security hot podcast. Let's go. You're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best with guns, with knives, with his bare hands, a man who's been trained to ignore, ignore weather to live off the land job was disposed of enemy personnel to kill period post a couple a little bit ago that we were out farming and I was like holy shit, what is this man?

Speaker 2:

oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. Um, so we, we brought our crop in and, uh, I went out I helped a team guy, buddy. He was like you know, it's not like he needs to have help, but it definitely helps, right? I mean, that's what the teams are for, right? So you go help your boy out. And it was cool, dude, it was a sweet experience to go fucking farm and do it on like a big scale. It's got like 5,000 acres to rip through. So fuck yeah.

Speaker 2:

So last, year yeah, yeah, I helped him drill that wheat last year and then, um, this year, we harvested and it was pretty rough, dude, we did a great. I mean, you know, it's like one of those things where we did everything we could. We did it all. Right. We put in a ton of wheat, right, like it's a fourth generation farmer. We put it more than they've ever ever had on the farm. It was good, we got rain and we harvested and wheat prices are at a 60 year low.

Speaker 2:

Oh fuck, yeah, so it's like you know we. Yeah, so it's like you know we. We showed up to the uh, the mill, you know. So you take all your wheat to the mill and they store it or they turn it into wheat or whatever and, um, wheat flour. And the guy was just like, damn, you know, you guys work so hard, I feel so bad writing this check and we were just like it's cool, dude, you know, like what, what the hell are we gonna do? Right, like there's nothing we can do. There's, there's no like fucking gluten-free sons of bitches dude.

Speaker 2:

So I'm doing my mba right now and I'm thinking I'm gonna do like a little case study on it. Just try to figure it out. Because it's like, yeah, what, what is the deal with that? You know what I mean? Diesel prices are the highest they've been. I don't know, I mean they're close to the highest they've ever been. And you know it takes two thousand dollars basically, um, just to clean a field. One time. You know, and fuck, like it just costs a ton of money.

Speaker 2:

And so when you see like that 60 year low, you're like 60 years ago, how much did shit cost them? A lot, fucking less. And so you, you start thinking like, okay, so how do we, uh, how do we equal this shit out? Like what's all happening? And you know we I've done a little deep dive and it's like tariffs and we're buying chinese wheat and, um, you know, there was like a thing where the cattle companies the sale price on beef was really high for a minute, so they just took all the cattle, fattened them up, so then they take all the produce. I don't know, it's so dynamic and so hard to explain. All I know is that it was gay when I did it. It's so hard to explain. All I know is that it was gay when I did it. You know you sell your shit and they're like, well, it's at a 60 year low. You're like, fuck, yeah, you're just like how often do I lose?

Speaker 2:

How often do I have to end up being a loser here? You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

Who wins at anything. It's like the opposite of being a fucking soft professional, being a navy seal like fuck yeah, crushing life. They yeah, go farm for a season. It's like you're 60 dollars.

Speaker 2:

Yeah right, dude, it's like, um, you know, being a team guy too, me and my buddy talk about this all the time. It's just like you don't realize it. But you're kind of rich. You're never home and you save all that money. You got all the military benefits, you get your house before all your other friends from school and you're like, damn dude, you don't think you're rich. You're like all those guys are making six figures, like shit dude. But then you go back and you look at it and you're like, with deployment money, bonus incentives, all this shit, you're like it's kind of fucking rich.

Speaker 2:

It's kind of sweet.

Speaker 1:

But no, it's fine man.

Speaker 2:

You just bounce back. It's a team guy attitude. Immediately, we're just like all right, well, we can definitely buy beers with this. So see you next year.

Speaker 1:

I'll take one whopper junior and a six pack.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, we got to start cutting back his whopper juniors from now on. My buddy was telling me that though he was like you know, if it was a really bad year, like, uh, back in the day we'd go to mcdonald's and we'd have dinners there sometimes, yeah, it's like it's.

Speaker 1:

It's crazy like what our farmers do for our entire nation and how little they're making. It's ridiculous. Man, god and and we continue to have individuals are willing to vote for shit that doesn't matter. Just right, nobody wants to stay, you know it. It sucks, but maybe we need to prioritize shit that really matters. We can feel good about other things later down the road, but right now we got to take care of real important business. Nobody wants to do that.

Speaker 2:

It's a crazy time we live in. Yeah, you're right, it's, it's weird. It's like uh, you know, you don't have to be an economics major to figure this shit out, but gold isn't the real value Money, it's this little tangible that everybody likes to grab onto, like national debt money. How much money do we have? Yada, yada, yada. Your real value is in how much food you can produce. This is a core concept in the economic community. Any economist knows that. It goes all the way back to Adam Smith's wealth of nations. Your value is truly based upon how many people you have and how well they can live. And how do you figure that out? Well, how much food can you produce? Because if you can't produce enough food to keep yourself afloat, you can't do it.

Speaker 2:

So it's, it's shitty to see that the farmers this year are kind of taking the heavy. You see that grocery prices are high and that's a big issue, and we're in an election year. So well, let's artificially sink grocery prices by nuking the price of corn, wheat, sorghum, sugar, all that shit in our market, because that's all we can control. All that shit in our market, cause that's all we can control by cheaper shit from other countries, and let's try to artificially bring these prices down before election day so we can get a good payoff, or, you know, whoever we want can get elected.

Speaker 2:

It's like, well, at the end of the day, there's somebody sucking that giant dick you just made and they're on the farms. You know like these dudes are getting the farms. You know like these dudes are getting destroyed and you know they get the bad end of absolutely everything, which blows my mind. So I I feel for our farmers. Uh, after spending two seasons doing it, it's like that's the real deal. That's a hitter job. It is all a hard go and, uh, super under underappreciated. You know you live in your farm, your wife's probably pissed at you, your kids are running around and they don't see you enough during summer. Everyone's mad at you. And then you pull up to the mill and they're like 60 year low, get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1:

Here's your check for two nickels boss.

Speaker 2:

Want to road these suckers together.

Speaker 1:

Maybe you can start a fire outside. It's so true, man, and they go unappreciated and arguably like the places where you know they have the most voting power are the fucking cities, and nobody takes into account what's going on in the heartland of America. Nobody takes into account what's happening on in the heartland of america. Nobody takes into account what's happening to our farmers, and it's crazy because it the heartland farming communities produce a lot of fucking hard-hitting, fucking soft professionals, dude like I know a lot of guys that went back home, the farm and it's like fuck, dude, you just busted your ass for 20 fucking years and you're going right back into the hardest fucking job. Yep, I love it backbreaker.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, dude, you know it's like um, I mean, it's like being in the special operations community. If you look at the day-to-day you're like that's not awesome, that sucks, like that's awful, you know, but it's like the uh, the status is like the motivator. You know people are like, yeah, they'd be sick if people thought you motivator.

Speaker 1:

You know people are like yeah sick.

Speaker 2:

If people thought you were off like a badass and you're like, yeah, well, you know, every day you're doing it. You're just surrounded by other guys who are like you and you're all wet, cold and sad. So there's really there's a, there's a lot of stick and not a lot. It's the same way. It's like, yeah, some people are appreciating you out there, but at the end of the day you're in your own little bubble and nobody gives a shit. Right here, we're all farmers, we're all poor right now.

Speaker 2:

You know it's, it's tough. I don't, I don't even know how you solve that problem to help those people out. And you're right, dude, cities have so many people in them and to their, to their uh, I don't want to make it sound like city people are retarded. For me, like I had. For me, I had no idea either. Right, you know I started the farming shit and I was like, oh my God, like it's the you know cause. You think, right, sitting on a tractor, it's really what you're doing. You know, there's a lot of times sitting riding the road in the tractor but everything breaks fueling, I mean, dude, it's just like so dynamic, there's so much shit going on and it really is a bitch Like everything hurts by the end of the season. It's like a deployment almost, but they're doing it every year.

Speaker 1:

Dude it's like you're living a real world, like Discovery Channel, epic, because you're traveling around the world, around the united states, and you're having these little micro experiences and like, yeah, that that's something that few people get to experience. Like, on on this journey that you're on man, like what are some other things that, like that you've experienced so far, that's just like, wow, this is life-changing dude I mean, we've really been traveling and trying to soak it all in.

Speaker 2:

You know, a lot of people will do the rv, van, life shit and they'll park somewhere for like a really long time, which I recommend. If anyone's considering it. Any soft professional, fucking make your plan, dive your plan. Make it for like a month and a half when you're gonna go, don't do what we're doing and just fucking run around. It's fast, you can't all the time. It's ridiculous, but you really do see america, man, it is really cool. Like, um, I mean even just our drive yesterday.

Speaker 2:

We're looking to uh, sow our oats, and or not so our oats, but so our seeds in in reno. So we, so we're looking into the Nevada area to kind of build our life. But, um, dude, just driving through Nevada, you would never know that Nevada has the second most public land of any state. If you didn't, and you wouldn't know what that meant. Like you can't conceptualize it until I tell you that for five and a half hours you get out of the salt flats of, basically, salt lake city, you get through the salt flats, which are really cool. We've done and done the salt flats things too. It's awesome, you know, you take your car and just see how fast you can actually fucking go, because it's flat forever. Just rip, dude doing really like doing anything you want. You could shoot out your car. It's basically like a live action range. It's pretty sick, um, and you drive through the salt flats. So we drove through bonneville and you get into to nevada, right, and you're thinking like, okay, so there's probably going to be like a couple towns, and there are there's like three, but, dude, it's just public land for five fucking hours.

Speaker 2:

So we're in Fallon now where they do Top Gun, and to get to Fallon you're going through five and a half hours of public hour, fucking land. It's so cool, man, seeing antelope, wild horses, elk, like it's gorgeous, rolling hills, mountains, prairies, basins. That's when you start to conceptualize like shit, man. Like america is really cool, because that's not just like the america that's all contentious and on tv like, oh, let's fucking yell at each other. This is what america is now. No, this is like. This is what we fought for. You know, this is this land, this fruitful land of, of splendor. You know all this cool shit. So that's the really cool part about the rv life is that one. You know we're mobile, so any opportunity. We're fucking on it like it was. It was sweet to come down and see you guys in florida a couple months ago, but that seems like forever ago, right?

Speaker 1:

because I know, dude, yeah, we even moved since then now we're, now we're in, even moved since then, now we're in alabama, yeah, yeah we're in alabama yeah, bro, it's, uh, it is.

Speaker 1:

It makes you appreciate florida. That's awesome. I will say this there are there. There are a lot of good opportunities, are some awesome um. One thing we didn't have in the area where, like museums, um, things to go do, culture, I was kind of missing. You get a lot of that here, and I mean atlanta is only like a few hours away and uh, like it's. But it's also nice to move away from the mecca, from like the hub of like you know where you were last stationed at, and that's something that's like yeah, that's your final, like move away. Go right, you know, go somewhere where there isn't another fucking green beret, um, which there's like stealing all your glory.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I want to go somewhere I'm cool please, I'm like I had this all, like I'm going to tell everybody that I I work, you know, as a janitor at a local high school. Just blend in and, like the first day I go to my gym, there's another green beret there and, like you, just you instantly know you look at each other like yeah, wait a second.

Speaker 1:

I, I know you, you, you have the same background. And then it's like, within 48 minutes it's like hey, uh, like your tattoo man, uh, what battalion, what, what, what company it's like, oh, god damn it.

Speaker 2:

Yep, yep, but he's actually a really cool dude, so it helps too, cause, like you build that little community and then you're kind of like off on your own. But yeah, no, I like alabama, like it's easy to shit on for some reason, but honestly, when you drive through there uh, that was one of our experiences too is, yeah, I forget what the wilderness area we were in connect yeah, connect, it was some, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, some goofy name, but it was gorgeous, beautiful, pretty.

Speaker 2:

When you're there, you have no service, you're out on your own. There's tons of woods everywhere, not a lot of people. That was really cool. I did like that and I know what you mean, man. When you're in one of those beach teams towns like Virginia Beach, san Diego, you're just like, oh my God, dude, I know what you mean. There's no culture here, it's just like drink.

Speaker 1:

Beach is the culture drink like nobody gives a shit about team shirts.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah look like a team guy.

Speaker 1:

Go to the beach drink exactly here you can form your identity and start like doing, you know, know, meeting people that have no connection. That's one thing I realized about going to church here too, like there's, you know, we're still located at the Maxwell Air Force Base and uh, cause, my wife's still still in, she's going to school up here. But it's nice to get out and have to forge your own identity and, you know, just be that new guy, be a new guy in town and just go about your way and uh, yeah, it's, it's gonna be a good, good place for us and uh, I'm just excited for more, more new things here. Yeah, dude, and that's the thing that I love about the journey you're on, man, it's like you get to experience something new, or you have been, you know, on a regular basis. Like, I know, you tell people like, hey, take your time, go through, but there's something nice about finally being able to free and cut ties and just fucking experience life, dude.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, man, it's been really cool. I've gotten to do a lot of cool stuff. It honestly is it. It. It opens doors too, because when I was doing so, I immediately got out and started doing like a franchise, which kind of chains of changed that same military shit Right, and the corporate life can be fine for people like and I don't disparage the corporate life in general, I think for soft dudes, when you're looking at it, make a backup plan and maybe start a little business on the side, just to have that like autonomy. You know like we need some autonomy when you get out and, um, but it's been cool like I can say yes to every opportunity.

Speaker 2:

When I was doing the franchise shit and going doing corporate stuff. You can't, you can say yes, but you don't. You know, you feel that, uh, that same like team mentality where you're like no dude, I just got to be around for the team, I just got to be ready in case somebody needs me, or I got to be on call, or I got to be in there, just maybe go get a workout and see what guys are doing. You have that same mentality in the franchise corporate world and now that I'm out of it, it's like a guy hit me up the other day and this is something I want to tell you about. It's pretty cool.

Speaker 2:

A team guy I know is working for this company now that another team guy made, of course, and it's called the invisible wounds foundation and they're they're basically tying guys like you know, your whoop and your garment and all those kind of like fitness scores, tying it to like a mental health score. So then it gives you swim buddies and you're tied into other soft guys or really anyone, veteran community higher part department, you know, like guys who just deal with that kind of level of stress, and when it sees that you're having a hard time, it just alerts your swim buddy and your, your, your boys know.

Speaker 2:

And it's like and it's like that one little touch point where you pick up the phone and you're like what's up, dude, how you feeling, yeah, and it's like you know what, not good like it makes a huge difference.

Speaker 1:

I'm in danger.

Speaker 2:

I'm in danger and it's like, well, what's going on? It's like I don't know nothing. Really, that's usually how it goes.

Speaker 1:

It's like I don't know, dude so true, man, I I just had a conversation with one of my best friends in the world and, um, you know, he was out at camp. He drove, drove all the way out to his cabin, had this huge plan for for hunting, and gets there and he's like dude, I'm sucking, I don't know why, I don't know what's going on, i'm'm fucking sucking. And I just happened to reach out. I just happened to reach out of the blues, like that Spidey sense, like you just reached out. Call my friend. You know, maybe maybe hasn't left the cabin yet, maybe he hasn't gone out there. He's dude.

Speaker 1:

I went through all these hoops to get off work early, get up here, and I got out here and I'm like I just don't want to fucking be here now. And it's just like he got into this mood, got into this funk and luckily intuition or God, whatever happened just able to told me to call. Then we spent the entire drive back just talking and chatting. But it's like dude, that happens to all of us and that's a shoot. That's a smart fucking app dude. That fucking app dude. That's a hellacious fucking endeavor to create dude.

Speaker 2:

That's sick yeah, it's, uh, invisible wounds foundation. I recommend it to soft guys anywhere. It's. It's going to continually grow. You know it's I wouldn't say it's in its infancy, but it's. It's still developing. It's still growing, it's, it's getting better and, um, we're actually doing like a uh, what you call like a monster mash nove November 9th, just a bunch of soft guys doing I think it's a five-mile swim into a 50-mile ruck, trying to bang it out in under 20 hours. Yeah, it's going to be sick.

Speaker 1:

Hell yeah, dude, that's badass.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm saying, dude, I got a call from a buddy and we live in the trailer. Someone's like dude, we're wrapping up the farming season. I get a like a last minute call. My buddy's aid is just like dude, you want to come like do this thing? It's like a. It's basically just like a hitter ass workout and we're going to go down to Arizona and go to this place called XOs where they train professional athletes and soft guys and people like that. And I was like sweet, so I go down there, get the whole warmup deal in and then, uh, get like my exercise program and then we're just going to go bang it out in November. Just do what soft guys do. Yeah, kind of buckle up, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so it's cool man.

Speaker 2:

Awesome dude. Yeah, I'm excited for shit like that. Right, like just being a soft guy. You just want that opportunity to be like yeah, just beat me up a little bit, like I deserve it. You know I've never done like anything longer than a marathon.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Sir, please. I've never done anything more than a marathon, so I'm training right now. I run an hour, 90 minutes, two hours a day and it's going to be sick dude. I mean, we're just trying to raise awareness so people know, because if dudes were all kind of interconnected like that in just the critical moments, right, yeah, we want to get away from each other, we kind of just want to unplug in general as a community, but we all know that there's that little bit of you that needs to kind of stay plugged in and dialed and if you need help, that's when you need it, right. And I think it's cool to have kind of something in the, in the background, kind of monitoring that for you Like hey, time to reach out, or are they paying somebody else? Hey, man, reach time to reach out, or they paying somebody else.

Speaker 1:

Hey, man, reach out to this dude because it helps everybody involved. You know so, absolutely, man, the the biggest thing that people don't realize it's you have to look out for the people that are, you know, in crisis. They're dealing with things. But you also have to look out for the guys that are always in support of everybody else. Like everybody needs support.

Speaker 1:

They get people have this misconception of like, oh, you know, jimmy's doing great, jimmy leads a peer to peer support, he takes care of everybody. But hey, man, jimmy only has the same amount in his cup. So if he's constantly pouring out, like, take care of each other, you have to reach out to the friend that's always reaching out, um, and if you're that friend, know when you have to dial back and pour into your own cup. That's one of the hardest lessons to learn about this whole journey of getting better and staying on your journey. Your mental health journey and your wellness is like, hey, if you miss out on the gym, if you miss out on your hobbies, your activities, all that shit piles on. You can't just do work and advocate for everybody. Everybody has to take a knee, like you have to be able to stay plugged in on the things that help you that's, that's exactly right and it will.

Speaker 2:

It will be the hardest thing to learn. The one of the easiest things to do for your mental health is to just plug into your friends and talk with them and work some shit out. But the hardest thing is to figure it out on your own right. Right, you know, like, what do I need? What can I do for me? That's impossible for for soft guys to figure out what can I do for myself. It's just not how we're programmed. It's not the mission, it's not the teams, it's not swim buddies, it's not shooter pairs. Figuring out what you need for yourself is very.

Speaker 2:

Some people recover really well reaching out to other people and then you, they, you take a little from their cup, you pour a little, you know, and I feel that way a little bit. You know, I feel a lot better when I reach out to my friends, but it's something you've got to like, get in a routine with, because God dude, I I don't enjoy cold calling people to talk for like an hour. It's just not how I am, but it always makes me feel better, you know. Yeah, so I don't know.

Speaker 1:

That was another text I got from a friend. Like it started as an Instagram message and I we just ended up getting on the phone and he's like dude, I'm so sorry, like I'm going through a funk and I'm I was supposed to call you like days ago, but every time I pick up the phone I would just get anxiety and figure out a reason why not to, and I'm like that's a perfectly normal thing. Like, just push yourself past that little boundary and make that phone call.

Speaker 2:

Dude, it's important, like we're. It's hard to explain to a lot of people and I think the military at large is like this you know, just being a soft guy we talk about soft guys and that's what we understand really well. But I think the military at large, like you leave your family, like your, your nuclear family, and you go join this like thing that's bigger than you, and then you kind of integrate into it, change with it, grow with it. By the time you get out, I'm comfortable around my family. However, I don't want to share.

Speaker 2:

There's that impulse in your brain that's like I want to share with this person and I only get it with my teammates, I only get it with my soft guys. And so you may not even think you need it or you want it or anything, but there's going to be these moments where you're like, yeah, I just don't, I don't want to talk, like I just don't talk to my wife and my, my mom and my, my family about that kind of shit, and it's like, well, you know who you would talk about it with is your teammates. You know, like I know you don't want to hit everybody up all the time and bitch and moan, but sometimes it's just like dude, just get a bitch session in, just go bitch about stuff, why not, you know?

Speaker 1:

So true, dude. My buddy, who I farm with, will call me and he's just like dude.

Speaker 2:

sorry, I just got to bitch about some stuff and I'm like dude. Said it, said it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's true, man. People just need a vent to vent, man, and it's just like you said, man, everybody thinks that we're just as men, that we're just quiet and we don't do we fucking bitch and complain. It's just part of life, dude. You have to reach out to your friend that you feel like you can do that with and it's okay, like or call up your friend, talk about the latest fucking level that you're stuck on on space marine 2. Um, fuck yeah dude.

Speaker 2:

I mean, that's honestly like why video games are a pretty cool thing. I know a lot of soft dudes who constantly like plug in together and it's a good way to just kind of like be present, right like I don't think a lot of us need to go deep dive all the time. Maybe you go slam a few beers and you get it out every once in a while. But, like you know, just like the constant pinging, you know like oh yeah, this is what's going on. You just do some shit. You're like yeah, yeah, no, it's kind of frustrated right now. You get like a little bit out and that's fine. I don't think that like the whole. Um, I think it's a very in this. I don't want to sound like a misogynist and I also don't want to sound like a misogynist chauvinist preparing a sentence this way either.

Speaker 1:

So just let it be what it is. How dare you, sir, how dare you?

Speaker 2:

it's like I think a lot of what we think about mental health is driven by the female side of the conversation, right, because predominantly that's how it's been in america.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if it's like that globally, but in America it's been women wanting men to open up and it's been women driving men toward that kind of self-help, and I think men haven't gravitated towards the therapy or any of that kind of stuff, because it's just not natural to us. You know, we have a tribe and we like to communicate in that tribe and we like to be around that tribe, and then that's where you get your shit out. And I don't think it has to look one kind of way for any kind of person. You know it's just get together, go fucking run, go fucking work out, play a video game, whatever. You know, it's just continue to ping each other, cause when we lose dudes that that network signal is not on, right, if someone was talking to that dude it'd be different, right? We, we all know that it's like that phone call away kind of shit. So yeah, just, it doesn't have to be textbook self-help. Just go fucking talk to your friend, you know. Go golf, do do whatever, just stay connected, that's it, that's.

Speaker 1:

I mean that's that's exactly it man, I don't have it agree so yeah, no, no, I I actually just experienced something like that in one of my college classes, the. The worst experience you'll ever have is going through any psychology class and the discussion boards and, uh, I forget the exact question, but it was something along the lines of like understanding the you know, the nuances of men's mental health, like how to getting involved in that space and how to best support men while they're going through their challenges. And in this thread, of course, you have to imagine, vast majority of the my peers in this class were women and it was like an echo chamber of how they knew how to solve everything. And and there was just like post after post after post, congratulating each other, patting each other on the back. We solved it, we did everything, and it was just like I'm just sitting there waiting by my time I check in on one day see all the great ideas.

Speaker 1:

I'm like yeah. And then finally I'm like, ok, you guys got it out of your way. Allow me to chime in. I'm like, hey, great ideas. Have you thought about asking about the perspective from a man? Have you thought about bringing us into the fold? Because all of these great ideas are awesome, but none of these things are going to help men.

Speaker 2:

None of the ideas are floating, and that's kind of what it boils down to. Is that, like we want mental health for men but the male perspective is a foregone conclusion because we already know how mental health works? It's like, yeah, do we? Do we actually know fucking anything? You know, I mean, really, when you look at like diet, health, anything that has to deal with the human brain, that we've got to be at like the the beginning stages of infancy, of understanding who we are, and at the end of the day, what does that mean?

Speaker 2:

I would say, personally, my experience go with your gut, do what you think is right and, you know, be open. You know, if you can communicate your thoughts, then how could you be, how could I possibly be so wrong about what makes me feel better? You know what I mean. Like, how could I possibly be so fucking off the mark knowing myself that when I'm like, yeah, just, you know, I get that out with friends, I don't need to go somewhere with some person that doesn't make me feel any better, you know it doesn't, and everybody's everybody's different, and what works for me may not work for you and vice versa.

Speaker 1:

But one thing is universal is it's better to get things out and talk with somebody than keeping it all in, and you have to be willing to try a few things. The the one thing that blew me away too, is just the first tool that you're offered, but that's just it, the first, the first tool. Continue on that path, like and and study it. Be willing to pick up a book and read, because I didn't know how much our endocrine system played a role in how we felt. I didn't know that it was tied. It could be tied to depression, to our anxiety, like you're getting treated for all these things and they're giving you medication but they're not addressing your endocrine system. They're not addressing your low testosterone. And come to find out what is one of the biggest things that gets improved when you raise your testosterone to normal levels depression, anxiety, all these things.

Speaker 2:

And it's like, fuck, yeah, it's like one of those things where you talk to someone from my grandmother's generation and they're like, oh yeah, you definitely are what you eat. They still have the, the, the principles down right, you are what you eat, eat an apple a day, like all the, all these small little tidbits of information that we've generally generationally passed down. They all had it. Now they're all dying from alzheimer's and heart disease and liver disease because of crisco. Because they were the first generation, they were the first batch of people to be straight up confused by, you know, corporate food entities. That's when it, that's the beginning of corporate food, right, but they still had the ideas right. And then we kind of like backpedaled the ideas because they're all getting sick.

Speaker 2:

But the ideas weren't the issue here. It was, you know, we generationally know what's good for us Eating, healthy, exercising but all this like middle ground where it's like, yeah, it's okay to be fat, but it's not OK to be fucking lazy and get fatter. Ok, yeah, like there needs to be a distinction here. It's OK to be fat, it is not OK to be lazy, accept fatness and get fatter because it's going to be bad for your brain. You're not going to think correctly. You're going to, you're going to produce too much to, you're going to produce too much fat, you're going to produce too much sugar, and then you're probably going to get some. You know whatever insulin disease like type one, two or three, diabetes, diabetes You're going to get the betas dude, you know like if you can't dial in.

Speaker 2:

So you see all these things that like affect cognitive behavior. And for guys like us, you go blow up anything and what's exposed? Your testes, your hypothalamus and your, your brain. You know your, your battle rattle helmet does not do shit for an explosion thing. The concussive blast just goes into it and boings around in there Like it's. It does fucking nothing for you. So you're exposing your, your most sensitive areas to blast and I think my personal opinion is that blast exposure is just straight up, like that is the enemy here.

Speaker 2:

You know, for for people getting out of military service and having all of these different, you know, mental issues, you can't think straight because you're, you're exposing yourself to something that really organically does not exist. An explosion like that, it just doesn't fucking exist. You can burn yourself, you can freeze yourself, you hit by fucking lightning, but we invented the explosion and we are the people getting really close to it and we're seeing, like what, what does that do to your human? Like, what does that do to the body? What is shooting a bunch of Carl G's in a day? Do? Well, you're going to get some weird nosebleeds and maybe out of your eyes too. You know, it's just like some wild shit, you know.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

What'll happen?

Speaker 1:

we'll forget we will forget it. That's right, but you know there's a threat.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's a threat. I yeah, there's a threat. Dude, I'm so tired of my wife telling me that I don't have a good memory. I've got a sick memory. When it's going, when it works, I'm on it.

Speaker 1:

But when it doesn't work, fucking on fire dude, yeah, dude.

Speaker 2:

You know like I can remember fucking anything, but if it's something small.

Speaker 1:

It's gone. It's basically. My memory is now relegated to like movies and very specific like moments in those movies, like I can quote, such of like so many moments in jurassic park, and I can tell you obscure facts about some of the worst movies in 19 in the 1980s, but when it comes to like my day-to-day life, I'm fucking retarded.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah but here's the thing is that like people may be like um, and I'll count, I'll count it out with this the man I am today. I'm looking right into the camera. The man I am today. I would lose more memory to retain more movie quotes. If I were given the option, I would choose more movie quotes Because sometimes I want more. I would choose movies.

Speaker 1:

All right, I'm back Returns.

Speaker 2:

Returns.

Speaker 1:

The return From his momentary exile at the hands of the Israeli overlords at Riverside. Now they're going to delete my account. Yeah, dude, I don't know why that happens.

Speaker 2:

I think I can't keep up with the the refresh like the upload restore yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fucking.

Speaker 1:

You got that starlink going, or uh. What are you guys using for internet?

Speaker 2:

dude. So I've got verizon and I took one of their little home cubes that goes off 4g and I just took it on the fucking road and, um, I've I've like called Verizon before for like maintenance stuff and they're like wait, what are you doing with it? I'm like I'm on the road. They're like wait, you can do that. And I was like I don't know, I don't know You're Verizon, you're.

Speaker 2:

Verizon. You're the Verizon guy, so I think I'm pioneering what can be done with the Verizon Home 5G cube. That's kind of the gist that I got. They're like whoa, that's sick.

Speaker 1:

You're like, yeah, I guess, sick, you're mobile. It's like, get it, it wasn't even designed for that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like, well, that's what you get man. Hillbillies are fucking innovating the future. I live in a rv so I can't really avoid that.

Speaker 1:

Elon, if you're watching this, please send our boy one of your Starlink. Actually, we'll tag him in this. When we drop it, I'll make a clip. Daddy Elon, please help our friend, give him one of your Starlink devices.

Speaker 2:

Dear Elon, please, please send me a Starlink under my Christmas tree this year.

Speaker 1:

Can't believe we live in a world where Boeing has been murdering its whistleblowers and their space shuttle can't bring our American astronauts back, so it's up to Elon to save them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, dude shit is getting weird right. It's like dystopian kind of. Yeah, like you see all the misinformation shit and like I mean you saw that. Did you see this thing with the? The would have been assassin for trump again the other day bro, please and thank you.

Speaker 1:

They've both been in black rock commercials.

Speaker 2:

I first at first I was like this is dude.

Speaker 1:

I just messaged my friend because the first video I'm like this isn't real, you have to be a critical thinker. The next video that they put out, I'm like get the fuck out of here. The kid is in the video, the, the old dudes in the video. I'm like that's it, I'm done. We, we have to go against black rock. It's like the, the sith and the empire yeah, it's, it's bizarre.

Speaker 2:

And the thing is is like critical thinking is still telling me like, okay, well, what's gonna happen if it's the biggest company on the face of the fucking earth? Yeah, they're gonna have a lot of people in their downline. But my thing is have you seen how these guys look, bro? Like a year before they're the shooter? And then you see them day of and they look fucking insane. Yeah, like someone's been feeding them drugs. Yeah, dude, I'm not a conspiracy guy.

Speaker 2:

I actually really don't like conspiracy thinking because I like to write. You know, I don't consider myself a writer, but I do write stuff and um it, it's lazy writing, right, like a conspiracy is just straight up lazy writing. It's like the easiest answer possible being the answer and like m night shamalan would never do any of these conspiracies that are out there, like he's gonna think his way into something far more interesting. Yeah, and it's like it's, it's weird, it's weird. I'll give it that like. At this point, I'm like okay, there's a lot of similarities in the look between the two three months before and after the eyes dude the eyes, holy they're all deranged out?

Speaker 2:

yeah, like, what's the blood toxicology on these guys you know, like our is. Is that public information? Yet?

Speaker 1:

yeah, well, dudes. The other thing that I find super, super ridiculously weird is, uh, nothing was brought out. You know, they blew this kid's brains out everywhere on top of that fucking roof and then body moved. No information is yet to be uncovered and put out about this kid. If they found anything in this toxicology report, none of that's information out there. Um, I think we need to have, we need to just splinter off and create our own podcast. Denny and liam dude.

Speaker 2:

That's the hard-headed, hard-hitting questions the master splinter cell the master splinter cells podcast. I'm I'm game, so I wanted to tell you that. So, from what I've been building with my company and the veterans benefit stuff and and you've been doing a really good job of of making some solid internet space, especially through instagram account, it's really cool to watch you grow.

Speaker 1:

Honestly, you've been growing a lot, which yeah, dude, a lot of hard work, a lot of poop and cum jokes and uh, that's the only way to get to our guys. Dude, I did it fucking is dude, it fucking is uh.

Speaker 1:

Shout out to um making memes yeah, alex from, uh, hermosia, I think, was the one that I tuned into. One thing was like, dude, you're spreading yourself too thin. If you're by yourself, you don't have a team. Figure one platform out, figure it out, figure out your audience in that one platform, grow it and then spend time on another one and really dev that out. And I'm like you know what I'm gonna do that. So that's that's why I've been pouring a lot of energy into instagram. Um, because, dude, when you don't have a fucking team, when you don't have like 15 people like you, you got to figure it out, do?

Speaker 2:

all this shit. Yeah, no, I know what you mean. Unfortunately, the thing that I figured out is TikTok, and my memes on there are consistent and I'm getting a lot of viewership out of it. People don't like to follow me just as much there. It's a different environment altogether. I have figured it out. So I much there. It's a different environment altogether, but I have figured it out. So I feel comfortable with that, which is cool. And if you're a team guy out there and transitioning and you you're thinking of like transitioning in these spaces, you could fucking send me a message anytime and I'll tell you what I think about it. But I have by no means figured it out. Um, but what I've done is I've been transitioning this veterans benefits information idea from kind of like ephemeral, all these different, and I've channeled it directly into. In a few months we'll have the full release of the silent but deadly dot org website.

Speaker 2:

Hell yeah, and it's just a full-blown media company so instead of trying to dance around all these different ideas and try to get information to people, we are making media. We are in four or five months. If you are someone in the veteran community and you want to get your articles out there and you want to be seen, you want to make some videos. If you are okay with following prompts, hit me up. I'll pay to make articles, I'll pay you to make videos. We're trying to get all these fucking sweet benefits in a fun, engaging format out to people so we will actually learn while enjoying them. And, dude, there's sick shit out there. Man, I just finished a roadmap of basically introducing hunting on base to guys. Oh shit.

Speaker 2:

So many dudes don't know how to hunt on base and it's kind of a bitch. I I'm gonna be straight up like I do not like to set a high bar for any of these benefits. Hunting on base can be a total bitch, it can't. It's like fucking annoying. And if you know how and you know that what you're doing isn't wrong, I think there will be a lot more guys taking advantage of that and I think it's a really cool thing to do. If you're doing isn't wrong, I think there will be a lot of more guys taking advantage of that and I think it's a really cool thing to do if you're a military guy and you want a fun hobby keeps you quiet, keeps you invested in your professional life as well.

Speaker 2:

There are so many good things about the hunting community joining with the military community. You're not wasting money on gear because it works for your job and your hobby. You're fucking learning things that apply to your job. You're learning survival skills and you're just getting outside smelling fresh air, walking around, learning a new skill. I really support guys kind of just trying to transition into that, but I know how difficult it can be. I you know, I didn't have a dad grown up. My dad died when I was young and I didn't have that. That. You know, patriarchal lineage to to fall back on. That's how guys learn, you know.

Speaker 2:

So I've outlined an article series. I've already got all the things in it dude, pronghorn, meal guy, elk, moose, bear, you can do all this shit on base. I'm going to go do it. I'm going to fucking send it out to everybody. That's the kind of shit. So if you think that could be a fun thing for you to do when you transition out, you fucking go to silentbedeadlyorg and you send me a message. But that's the transition man. I want that. That homey feeling Uh, I hate to compare anything to anything because I feel like it detracts from what you're trying to convey. But you know that barstool sports, feeling like I'm a dude who likes drinking beer and eating ice cream and sitting on my couch and watching sports. I like these guys, you know, like that kind of thing. Yeah, I've seen the idea, idea in the veteran space, and what I really want to do is just kind of make a home for all these different things while still going into programs like Envy, right Like Envy great, nonprofit, great app.

Speaker 2:

Download it. But I want resources like that in there too, and I'm hoping that we can grow this thing and get people informed because, God bless man, we have so many really cool benefits that can absolutely change your life. I mean me just taking my MBA right now. You know, I hope I'm not getting on my fucking soapbox right now. No, no, please. I was going to ask you.

Speaker 1:

That was my next thing I wanted to ask you about the MBA, because I know that that is, that's, it's. I used to think that it was only something that was appealing to, you know, just to officers, but more and more I'm hearing guys that are coming out and they want to do the nba experience, they want to take on this challenge. So, dude, please tell us about this. And and why did you go into this? Uh, if you don't mind me asking, why was the nba something.

Speaker 2:

Oh fuck, dude I. I am the king of technical difficulties. Follow me on my media pages. I figure out how to use a fucking camera the conspiracy theories are out there.

Speaker 1:

They heard us talking about something they didn't want us to talk about. Now they're coming after us. How?

Speaker 2:

the fuck did black rock find where I was so fast? This, this is, this is a conspiracy right now.

Speaker 1:

Sir, we've got a great ABC saying bad things about BlackRock. Take a meter in action.

Speaker 2:

Go, go, go, go, go, go, go go.

Speaker 1:

What can we do right now?

Speaker 2:

Fucking crash the satellite we can do things with our phone right now Disable their camera. Disable their camera, disable them, disable them both. Fuck dude, I'm being fucking targeted.

Speaker 1:

Why do I immediately think that the bad guy is just an overweight, really fat fucking dude with one of those like necks that wobble when he talks you?

Speaker 2:

wanna know why, dude, you wanna know why? I think this is fucking. This is like deeply ingrained in human beings if you're incredibly out of shape, people assume you're going to make irrational. I think this is fucking. This is like deeply ingrained in human beings If you're incredibly out of shape, people assume you're going to make irrational decisions that are self-serving. So you just think of, like, oh, the evil guy, baron Harkonnen from fucking Dune, this big fat floating blob of evil Dude. You just think that and you also assume that they're eating a lot. I mean're eating a lot, but they have, like this fat store. So they're, they're, they're, they're gluttonous, they're good, you know, like they, they've got, they've got all the food they want, they've got everything they need. They're sitting on top, dude, and they're fucking true, so fucking true.

Speaker 1:

Job of the hut, rosie o'donnell like exactly, fucking evil monsters.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, dude, yeah, I think that's fucking spot on so true, but yeah, to get back to the nba?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, right, yeah, shout out my girl, rosie, she does, and you know going into the NBA shit. So here's the thing is that, like this is this is how benefits can really change the way we look at. Not only military transition. Dude, there are so many motherfuckers out there who are selling singular services. Come join my meetings, join this, pay me three grand and I'll help you make your life plan to use your own benefits. It's like it's just not fucking necessary. It's not the. The information is out there. I'm gonna work on getting it out there in a proper format, but really I'm gonna work with some more niche shit than these large federal benefits. There's a lot of info out there. I wrote a book on federal benefits that I'll be publishing, probably next year. It's going to take a minute.

Speaker 1:

No shit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's pretty good. It's around 110 pages. I try to keep it engaging, but short. The big thing about benefits is brevity. If you know them all and you know them very briefly, you can make a plan with them. If you get really focused on one, get really in depth with it, you're probably going to either get discouraged or that's, that's the one benefit you know. Now you you're going to seek help on the next one because it is. It's. It's a fucking endeavor to read all these litigious bs. What's what's the real word for lawyer speak whatever the the lawyer speak verbiage on the va website and they push, they, they detest anyone else telling you stuff.

Speaker 2:

So, before I get too far off track, these benefits are are can really shape the way you transition. They can shape the way you do the next three years right, those are the big deal. Those three years outside your military service are absolutely fucking confusing. I'm in the middle, I'm finishing, while I'm getting into or in the middle of my third. That's when you start to get a hold and a rhythm and everything. Veterans benefits can paint this picture for you, right? Because here's a great question that I love to ask people when they're thinking about veterans benefits because everyone thinks of disability, gi Bill, you know, and the VA loan. That's because there are so many companies taking up the Google search page that are making tons of money off veterans when they don't need to be off those three things that you're not going to think there are any other benefits. But let me tell you move to a fucking state that cares about you and you're probably experiencing this now. Is that? Move to states that care about you. Veterans benefits change wildly per state and sometimes pretty wildly per County, you know, with your personal property taxes and things like that. Yeah, um, I've done the research. I'm going to be putting out the information to try to just slowly trickle and feed this information to the public.

Speaker 2:

But when I was making my plan, I didn't know that I could get paid doing BAH, doing online school, right. And when people look at like the bah for schooling, for some reason there's this weird like mom is the word, don't talk about it, so it doesn't go away, type deal and it's like dude, we've got guys out there becoming I mean, I mean a lot of veterans becoming homeless, drug addicted and killing themselves. What the fuck are we doing? Hiding benefits, hiding advantages, right? So what did I do when I wanted to kind of figure this whole thing out?

Speaker 2:

I did all the research. I figured out the GI bill in the VR&E. So vocational rehab, chapter 31 benefits, and basically, if you don't know, if you're 10% disabled, you are entitled to VRN Chapter 31 benefits. Now you might not get them, but at 20% disabled you have a much better chance of getting them right and that's it. So it goes from 10 to 20. That's the only factorial. It doesn't go like 30 and way better 40 and so on. It's 10 or 20, and those are your odds of being good or better of being accepted for VRN what?

Speaker 1:

does this?

Speaker 2:

benefit. It's 48 hours or, excuse me, 48 months of school. So your GI bill is 36 months. So you're looking at an entire extra year from this benefit that people don't know. I tell my friends all the time, I tell basically everyone I meet, because how the fuck could you not know? It's four years and 10% of disability is disability. Is you know, tinnitus and knee pain. A lot of people are going to be coming out of the military with tinnitus and knee pain. That's just a matter of fact, right? So four years of schooling and when you're doing this schooling you can make bah, or when you're out, it's going to be called MHA monthly housing allowance. That's fucking huge. You know, if you don't know what you're going to do when you get out and you want to start a business or you want to do whatever, get your degree and make a little BAH or a little MHA, right, and start your business. People need that seed money in the back to stay afloat, right. If you've got a family and you want a little sense of pride that your service mattered for something, yeah, I'm going to school and they're fucking paying me. That's huge.

Speaker 2:

You want the next generation to join the fucking military? There's no, 9-11. These guys don't know what it feels like. They don't know what it feels like to be in a country full of national pride or to be afraid in their own country. They're not joining the way we were. They're not joining because you feel like you're doing yourself a disservice and a dishonor. Because you're not joining Right Like, there's that little bit of you that's like wow, why wouldn't I join? Like my nation needs me? They don't have that. What you can do is show them yeah, you can go get your degree, but they're going to pay you to do it instead. Right Like, you get that degree and then you can maybe get a second one and they'll pay you. Instead, go to the fucking military for six years. You're good to go. You know the four years can get a little iffy if you're going to get all your maxed out benefits. Six through 10, good to go, yep.

Speaker 2:

So what did I do? I researched all these benefits to put in this book. I found the real skinny on VR and E and I was like, yeah, I'll get my MBA. I'd like to learn how to run my business better and how to be, you know. And really what I needed was to learn how to communicate with civilians. I did the business. I was a chief operating officer. I had 250 employees right out of the military and what did I do?

Speaker 2:

I fucked up everything. That's in this first week of the MBA course. I fucking alienated people and I didn't even know why. I fucking made them feel uncomfortable and scared them and I thought I was doing all the right shit because we talked to each other in a way different way than how you're supposed to talk to, like all this MBA verbiage that I'm learning about the emotions of leadership and all that stuff. It's amazing.

Speaker 2:

This is my first semester of courses.

Speaker 2:

I'm also getting a monthly housing allowance, which really helps me in my business move that needle forward, because, guess what, starting business is expensive and it's fucking slow.

Speaker 2:

It helps me move the needle forward.

Speaker 2:

I think it's for a good purpose and I'm getting really good information on how to talk to civilians.

Speaker 2:

Because I didn't take this leadership 300 class, I don't know if I would have ever learned the emotional scaling and how to talk to not just an hourly employee but just a civilian employee with team guys. We're just fucking motivated by intensity and money. You know, like, if you're just like, yeah, dude, you'll make way more money if you go really hard. Get in here early, I don't give a shit about hours or whatever. Work at your own pace. If you want to be here 24 hours a day, seven days a week, burn yourself out, go ahead. That's like the team's way and I thought I could motivate people by kind of that mentality, like I'm coming in here and you guys know that I know all this shit right, I've I've proven myself on a proving ground of of men kind of at an international scale. I would assume some of these guys doing uh pt, so just like the physical training side of of or the personal training side of the gym, I thought they'd be super motivated, right like yeah yeah, we're gonna go get the fuck after.

Speaker 2:

We're gonna make a buck, we're gonna do this, and they kind of are. But they're intimidated because the way I'm presenting information, the way I'm approaching leadership, I'm not catering to the way they feel and dude kind of blew my mind. I'm in week one of this class and I'm really taking shit on board. I'm reading all the information, which I never do in class Normally. I'm reading everything. I'm really interested because it's cool and it's going to help me in the future when I'm bringing people on board my company and trying to to build them up Right.

Speaker 2:

There are leadership qualities that you get in the teams that do not fucking transit. You know like people in the teams want to see you lead from the front, like, yeah, he's talking to talk, but he's actually great in the house. He's running every day. He's really fucking strong, he's fast, he's doing all these things. He's coming down here and building boats with us. He's doing all this shit that he's telling us to do and people love that.

Speaker 2:

But when you get to the corporate world, you can't do, I can't get in your fucking cubicle and write your memo, for you can't. You know, can't do it. It's your only job, right? So there's this like how do I get in the trenches with you guys? Mentality that I experience I don't know if everybody does but fuck dude, you can't like, you just can't get into the same trenches. So you have to figure out these different ways of communicating and making people feel comfortable and not asking the wrong questions, like I love to ask people. You know how do you think you could have been better? And sometimes that's fucking straight up wrong. I guess you know like I'm learning how to communicate with people because of these classes and guess what? The military is not only paying for it, they're fucking paying me.

Speaker 2:

And when I went to look for these courses, you know we knew we wanted to be in the Reno area. So what did I do? I cased out the whole map how far can I drive, how far am I comfortable driving, and who's paying the most? Bah, this isn't some fucking weird gimmick that I need to be hush hush about, like, oh, don't go online and look up you know MHA rates and then choose a college for that reason. Well, I could be going to Stanford and I'd have the pedigree, sure, yeah, but I can make $1,300 a day or $1,300 a month more than going there and have more of my benefit to use doing it this way.

Speaker 2:

There are things that, if we knew them, getting out guys would be like okay, I've got a plan and I can feel safe for a little while. I've got a couple of years of school, I'm going to collect that benefit, I'm going to do a job and work my way up because and I'm going to get off my soapbox right after this but guess what team guys? You are sick, you're the, you're the best and we all know it You're adaptable, you're hard hitters, you're fast paced, you're you're everything you need to be, but nobody fucking cares. They're going to want you to work your way up to what you're entitled to and sometimes you can circumvent that. A lot of the time you can't. So get your fucking degree, then get your MBA, get paid the whole time for all of them, 48 months of fucking pay and work your way up to the thing you think you deserve. Get a little bit of that fucking civilian resume backer, because we don't know how to talk to people.

Speaker 1:

We just don't know, so true, and work your ass off and get into an accelerator. If you don't want how to talk to people, you know, we just don't know. So true, and work your ass off and get into an accelerated. If you don't want to do an MBA, figure out what you want to do. Figure out what you're passionate about and challenge yourself to do that accelerated master's program. Whatever school you're going to I know a lot of guys don't have their bachelors and dude. You can get a lot of schooling done with your VR and E benefits. If you're willing to fucking and dude, you're already performing at a higher level. I didn't think it was true. I thought I was going to be coming in there being, you know, like I'm going to be behind the power curve, like I'm not the only time that I was was with math, but uh, got that. Got that out of the way Now. I got that out of the way now. I'm now fucking cruising through uh back back to feeling good about my course, because it's fuck dude, math sucks.

Speaker 2:

Uh, I'm not an 18 charlie for a fucking reason dude.

Speaker 2:

I mean team guy breachers are supposed like we're. We're the best at math, yeah, you know as far as it goes, and I'll tell you what man it doesn't, it does not matter. We had a fucking civilian working at a breacher course. He'd been there for like 25 years and when it becomes charge calc day, guess what? The motherfucker's in there two hours early to learn it again. I don't know what it is, dude. I think it's been blown up way too many times. Math is fucking hard yeah.

Speaker 1:

But hard, yeah. But yeah, man, we do hard shit. Hustle, that's right. Go hard, you know that's really. Thank you so much for fucking coming on today and sharing your journey and where you've been these past couple months, man, I really appreciate it. Um, if guys want to check out your goods and want to see what you got going on, where can they go?

Speaker 2:

so just check us out at silent but deadlyorg. Um and hopefully by the time you see this it'll be beyond a splash page. If it looks a little funky and unfunctional, check back in. But otherwise you can go to SBD Operators on Instagram, tiktok. We're on there all the time making posts trying to get these veterans benefits out, and if you've got a question directly for me, email me at Liam at silent but deadly dot org. I'll answer any veterans benefits question you want. I will also set up a call and I'll listen. I've done this a hundred times. I will call you and I will tell you what to do with your fucking benefits, and I'm not going to charge you. I don't give a shit. I'm trying to give this information away. We deserve it. It's your shit.

Speaker 1:

Hell yeah, man, to give this information away. We deserve it. It's your shit. Hell yeah, man. Dude, thank you so much for coming on today and I can't wait to have you back on so we can bro out and uh drop some more 1980s or 1990s movie. Uh quotes, and uh I'll leave the audience with this one for one of my favorite movies, jurassic park. Um one of my favorite moments in the movie. It's um clever go fuck yeah, so many times I've just randomly thrown that one out there dude.

Speaker 2:

If you're married or in a relationship and you're a dude, keep that in your fucking back pocket and whenever she tells you to do something, bullshit ah never go.

Speaker 1:

That's right. It works every time. Uh, my wife is absolutely sick and tired of me using it, but I'm gonna continue because it's uh, that's what I like to do and here's no I can't get jurassic park back online without the help of dennis needry. Dennis, our lives are in your hands and you've got to butterfingers. I could do this all day, folks. I could literally do this all fucking day god damn, there you go.

Speaker 2:

Folks enjoy that. Yeah, I would start, uh, quoting total recall because I watched it yesterday, but I don't think anyone wants to listen to me. Do any of those arnold quotes, because they're all everything he says in that whole movie. Is that dude, dude, it's fucking absurd. There's no quotes to be gotten other than open your mind, fucking Quado.

Speaker 1:

Open your mind Open your mind. My absolute favorite is fucking Commando, but I think he uses it in Predator too. Stick around.

Speaker 2:

I think he does.

Speaker 1:

It's definitely in Predator, I know that for sure oh, my god, oh yeah, thank you all for tuning in and, uh, I'm gonna start adding ending every episode now with a random movie quote. Till then, take care, or else that's excellent or else what I don't know. Cue the end music. If you like what we're doing and you enjoying the show, don't forget to share us, like us, subscribe, thank you.

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