The crisis at our southern border is arguably the most pressing issue that our Nation is facing today. To help us combat the lies and inconsistencies spread by traditional news outlets, "Doc" Pete Chambers joins us to give us his "boots on the ground" perspective.
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The crisis at our southern border is arguably the most pressing issue that our Nation is facing today. To help us combat the lies and inconsistencies spread by traditional news outlets, "Doc" Pete Chambers joins us to give us his "boots on the ground" perspective.
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You block it out with your head. That'd be perfect, doc how you doing, brother.
Speaker 1:Good man, dude, it's been a quite a hectic last few weeks. Everything from US citizens moving down to the border trying to bring more attention to the cost, and then the worry and concern of the movement being infiltrated by individuals that maybe have the fairest intent, and then Governor Abbott taking matters into his own hands and speculation of just horrible things to come. And rather than letting speculations and gossip and hearsay take over the inner webs and everybody's social media feeds, I reached out to you because I'd like to get some insight as to what's really going on. How are you guys handling the chaos at the border? So thank you for being here this morning brother, and I appreciate you once again.
Speaker 2:So, provocateurs, infiltrators, nefarious actors, murphy, all those things kind of fell on our shoulders and, like any other operation, if you will, our job was to liaise between the convoy, which was to take our border back movement, which is really a rally, the wording of that, what they chose to call it, is their business, but it triggers something in the minds of those that would look, for a reason, to cause some kind of chaos. I mean, that's just the way it is. So literally it's a grassroots movement and I'm going to speak what I know about them, what their intent was. Five people, but a bunch of people, five organizers, got together godly people, just sweet people, innocent really, and just wanted to have just a convoy not just trucks, but trucks and cars and go from the East Coast to the West Coast, and San Ysidro was a final anchor point, but they had Yuma in Arizona, and then the leg that I was responsible for is liaison-wise, was the Eagle Pass, one, of course, that's in the news right now, as well as portions of Arizona, lukeville, but for me it's that.
Speaker 2:So, as a good liaison, I talked to my law enforcement partners, of which, when I was in uniform last year, texas National Guard. My job was to liaise with them anyway. So I knew everybody. I knew all the actors, which is great, so I have a good working knowledge. Just like any time we go down the range, we send out an AdVon team, they link up with somebody on the ground that understands. We know that's a friend and we basically just said okay, guys, this is what's going on. But here's the funny part is, you know me being out of the military and speaking to these partners.
Speaker 2:Even the law enforcement partners at the upper levels had already been kind of swayed a little bit with their in trying to understand the intentions of the peaceful movement. And so they're like doc, what are you doing? You know what are you doing and I'm like, hey, I'm not the leader of this thing, let's just get that straight. I am the liaison. Now, in the absence of leadership, we know that you have to lead sometimes. So I would go and sit in on their steering meetings and listen to them, and there was a lot of good intent, but there wasn't a lot of what do you would call it military decision making processes, you know, looking at all the contingencies and pace plans and things, and people just don't think that way. Sometimes we do, and so I kind of gave them the warning like, hey, here's the most likely course, this is most likely what's going to happen, but then we go to most dangerous thing you're going to get provocateurs and infiltrators and all those things.
Speaker 2:Now, that being said, it was really, you know, me just going back to my team and look, we're down here doing different things. We're advising local municipalities, our business, our think tank, or more of a do tank, on how to best shore up their positions, to deny territory to the bad actors that are coming across the border. That's what we do. But in doing that, we know a lot of information. So me marrying that up with the liaison piece was perfect place for it to happen. A lot of good things happened from that. So you know, I get, I think the victory is that nothing happened right, but that doesn't mean that nothing nobody intended it will, and that's that's what I really want to talk about.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's. We see it happening and we're sort of like hyper aware, hyper sensitive to it because no shocker. Vast majority of our career was learning how to do this stuff, was learning how to be the opposition, how to go into an environment where we can become those individuals that are creating that chaos and training others to create that, which is why I am constantly looking at situations and saying this doesn't look right, this looks a bit dangerous. Let's gameplay this and you're 100% correct Our civilian brothers and sisters that are trying to do great things, trying to bring awareness, they don't think like we do, Right.
Speaker 2:You know, they're looking like we look for seams and gaps, right, I mean, we look for the seams and the gaps in the chaos and actually I kind of enjoy the chaos. You know, during this whole thing, you know, several days of no sleep, it was actually like get up every day and just be like this is awesome, but we are, we're like meeting them. Meeting them being the opposition, whoever they were, and they were 15 different events that didn't take place that could have made this look bad. We met those event provocateurs at those seams and gaps, but we were already ready for it. So when they when let's just use one example when they said, well, there's 700,000 trucks coming, you know, and that created the first fear in the mind of department of public safety, like what's going on, doc? You got, you know, almost a million trucks. No, that's not what happened. That is just a, that's a Psyop, right, that's fifth generation warfare stuff. But we, you know, we, we just countered that with well, let's get on bigger media, you know. So I didn't intend for it to happen, but I ended up on, you know, tucker Carlson.
Speaker 2:So that was not by my intention, but Tucker Carlson had got received some Twitter responses saying when he said where are the men in Texas? On a tweet, just a simple, you know post, and I know he did it on purpose because he's also, you know, trying to figure out what is going on the ground too from his point of view. And so a bunch of people answered it and said well, why don't you talk to Lieutenant Carl Chambers? He knows what's going on and this is the grassroots thing. This is why this is important. When people then start firing that back, saying boom, boom, boom, he sees it over and over and then kind of Maria Z out of Australia. She's pretty well known in Australia, she's the Alex Jones of Australia. She posted it too, because I've been on her show a few times and that's where he responded.
Speaker 2:He called my business partner and said to you know retired Colonel Phil Waldron, who was, you know, one of the guys that was instrumental in, you know, showing the the Minion Machine fiasco. He came from the int side of the house and so Colonel Waldron, you know very, very well known in that community, he knows Tucker. So Tucker's literally talking to him on the phone when I walk in with my ranger panties, as I'm dressed now, and my hoodie, because it's cold with my coffee. And I'm walking in this door right behind me and he says, hey, I got Tucker on the phone. I'm like, okay, what's up? He's like, well, he wants to talk to you.
Speaker 2:So literally his people called me and I was on the next day. So you know, 20 minute spot, but what it was able to do is to take it up to high order. And so now you've, you've met that, you've paired that, that first seeming gap, which was the information it's not that, here's what it is. And that was, that was the first win. And then from there it just we continue to meet him at every you know three, four hole in the offensive line. So you know, it's kind of, kind of amazing.
Speaker 1:And that's the type of information warfare that we're dealing with. Having trying to elevate the actual truth, not a narrative, but the actual truth of what's going on, Continue to update. Modern traditional media does a horrible job of just spinning things out of control. There's just not a lot of people that watch it anymore, but the people that do, that's all their information, that's the only source they have. So if the only source of information is coming from the view, coming from mainstream media, they think we have a convoy of vigilantes, we have ex-paramilitary individuals killing and harming poor, innocent migrants. And that could be further from the truth. And the more we promote that ideology and promote those lies and that narrative, the further we get from the truth that if a nation doesn't have secure borders, it's not a nation. If I went all the way to New York and kept walking and made it to the Canadian border and tried going into Canada illegally, what would happen? You'd be rolled up. I would get rolled up. I would get processed and quickly be sent right back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean you know, in any of these countries I mean 150 countries are represented coming across right now on our border and, yeah, you would be met with some sort of at least a secondary conversation. So, yeah, I think that this was an example of and I'll tell you the rest of the story first and then, that way you can understand as we build up. So, after this was over, literally the governor's office reached out and talked to Phil and then talked to us and said, hey, thank you, that was a really good example of how to off gas, a problem set. And so I met with, and will continue to meet with, the head of DPS kind of their information people and say, all right, well, how can we do this in the future if this happens again? Because that fits into their game plan?
Speaker 2:Right, the state of Texas, who is in a constitutional fight right now with at least 25 other states, to say, hey, guess what? There's a constitution and there's an article for section four, there's an article 10, section one, sub subsection three, that says that the states have a right to do this under constitutional law. Now, that is opposite to what they were arguing before, which was case law. And when we have case law, now we're going to look at the, the domain of the legal system. Well, we look at that. We just, you know, mentioned the media, but the legal system, which does the same thing. They argue in a Hegelian dialectic, which then, you know, left versus right, case law versus, it's always so and so versus government, or government versus so and so we then went up synthesizing something else.
Speaker 2:In the meantime, we got an alligator approaching our canoe, which is, you know, 12,000 people, sometimes in 24 hours on the border, instead of how it used to be less than that in a month, you know. So they have. They have. You know, I feel for people. I had sergeants in my unit down there on the border that came across that river illegally and then served valiantly in the US Army and became great citizens, and many of these people will be, and we continue to embrace them. But appropriately, we do it through a means, and that's, you know, the immigration side of the house. But that system's broken too, as we see that Mr Mayorkas is, you know, currently under threat of being impeached.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then that's. I wanted to highlight that I posted something on my social media stream and the first thing that I had first comment was somebody I would say looks and appears like a middle-aged man, probably has a family, and the comment is you know, how dare you post something negatively to these poor people? What do you have against these poor people? No, no, you don't understand. There's no negativity, no hate, no animosity. There is a compassion element to this. There's a national security element to this. I have a lot of compassion and look at the plight of these individuals and understand completely.
Speaker 1:I'm not born and raised American, I'm an immigrant myself. Like I know what it means to be an immigrant in the United States. It's not an easy fucking thing. But let me tell you something when you sell this idea of prosperity, of a federal system that will take care of you and feed you and provide you with free money, you're not incentivizing somebody to live to their best ability to be their best self. You're incentivizing people to come here for a handout, and when your best friend is the state, you will do anything to advance the state's agenda.
Speaker 1:That's a horrible thing. That's a dystopian future that we do not want. We want individuals that can live, breathe and excel in the American way, the American way where it's like, hey, I come here, yes, I have programs to help me get on my feet, get established, and then I'm going to live the American dream, I'm going to fight for it. And we're losing that and we're now selling this idea of come here, we're going to give you money, we're going to take away resources from the hundreds of communities that are in desperate need of support and of care, and we're going to take all those resources and we're going to get them to you. And now we're starting to see the backlash.
Speaker 2:My dad was an immigrant and came here back in the 50s and went through the system, became a citizen and prospered and did well in life. And he told me son, you're going to go in the Army to protect this and whatever service to protect this thing that made our family capable of having these things. He came from nothing. I mean, he came here with $40 in his pocket, but these are things that people just don't understand. There's compassion, completely, but I also understand that there's laws and that there are to be adhered to so that the system doesn't get overwhelmed, because if we go to the strategic level on that, that's a tactic that a guy named Vesmanov, a KGB defector, talked about, said hey, listen, here's what's going to happen to America. And it was almost like he's reading a playbook now, but that was in the 80s. So that's what they did. Look, I've been in Venezuela when it was good and things were great. I was working air ambulance, go down there and it was wonderful, and then all of a sudden now people are leaving it and standing in line for food. So I got it, man.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's very easy to listen to those media sources, but I tell you who really listens to those media sources are the bad actor leadership, because they're using that as part of their information operation campaign. A lot of that money that goes into those mainstream media folks comes from the world economics or the globalists or the elitists. But I'm going to speak for Texas now and say that that's a game. As long as we don't get on that game playing field, we don't have to play that game because the elitists play polo, right, guys on a horse hitting a little ball. But in Texas we play rodeo and that's a real sport. We keep playing rodeo.
Speaker 2:There's no chance for them to do anything here with that little ball.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah it's. I don't think people understand the gravity of the situation when you leave the governor of Texas no choice but to take matters into their own hands and then the threats come. That's that is. We haven't seen that. At least in my lifetime We've never seen that where it's. It's now becoming a threat. I mean, there was instantly, there was repra, you know, the issues with Texas gas instantly. And now we're watching. I think everybody is waiting to see what the next Chest move is. What's the next thing that Levy against Texas?
Speaker 2:and there's a there's a long Flash to bang, if you will, when you start limiting people's just say, gas supply, natural gas. They did it in Europe and it's gonna be a while. But you know, the winters upon them in Europe and people are cold and they're burning trees and we're hearing about that. But we have to look at that as kind of an indicator of where we could possibly be in the next six months to a year. I, we speak to people in Europe. You know, member of parliament, there's one that's specifically there in the House of Commons that I talked to regularly. Same thing in Australia, because we have to use that as indicators to make decisions, decision points in order to Take a left or a right down the road. But you know, we're just a small element, but we advise those above us. And now I think that this was a good example of what we, the people, can do when you marry up Law enforcement, the people, municipalities, and say, okay, we, the state of Texas, are going to hold our own in this sense.
Speaker 2:And there was a famous battle I mean I shared it on Alex Jones last night in in France in World War one you pray, you know, battle of you pray and the French were, you know, outnumbered, but the German line came across and pushed through really hard, into an air, into an area that they brought them into that they own the real estate and the terrain features and they had those that big elements surrounded them on three sides by a lesser force and they were able to force that off. So in this case the three sides were we, the people, the state law enforcement and local law enforcement, and then the and then the, the truck, you know, the truckers, the convoy people, so they were able to do their thing and able to protect them from the oncoming force, which was the media force, and the and the provocateurs. And so guys like us went into work, you know, and said, okay, today, instead of, you know, shoring up some landowners, property to deny territory, the cartels, I tell you what we're going to do today. We're going to protect these, you know, five, six hundred people and these two hundred vehicles and they're going to be able to do what they want to do.
Speaker 2:And they did not disrupt, they didn't drive the eco pass. They were 20 miles north of there in a camp, the children's camp for orphans and widows I mean, you can't write this stuff you know in a book and make it sound any Benign more benign. But it was turned around to sound like well, here's the picture. They had Pete chambers on the front of a Peterbilt truck with a sword in his hand going let's go round up migrants. But that's not what I.
Speaker 2:Don't even know how I got you know, made the leader of it. I told Tucker I was like, well, he said, oh, I hear you're the leader. I was like, no, no, no, I'm the liaison and that's okay. I gotta be the face of this thing, somebody's got to be. It's kind of like you're the 18 alpha. You're getting yelled at by the battalion commander.
Speaker 1:Yeah, So's got to take the ass.
Speaker 2:Lots of vitriol came out on that, on the media, about me crazy stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is the exact thing that they do, which is when we, when we first talked a few days ago, that was like it's not shocking, but it is. When it's somebody that you know and You've seen and you've worked with and you know a hundred percent, it's one thing that you see it happen to Donald Trump, to see it happen to political figures, but see it happen to somebody you know personally, it's like Like what are where this, how, where they get this information? Where do they pull the? The things are pulling out of the ether to attack you with is Insane, bad shit, crazy there was.
Speaker 2:There was all kinds of that. My favorite was the this supposed green bray who calls himself that. I'm like, well, I mean, I wasn't a typical team guy for sure not, but I definitely served and and whatever, but that didn't bother me. But it was the, you know, trying to link me up with pedophiles. You know that. That was another one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know they're gonna talk to lawyers and they're gonna either back off of it or they're gonna. You know, we're gonna have a lot of donation money for that little church down there on the border. So one or the other, yeah, that's the way it's gonna roll, because I'm not gonna take a dime from that, because that's not my intent in this, you know. I mean we, we dug, I mean we dug out of a lot of our own resources and we're behind the curve on that, but we had to do this because this was important. This was a, this was a nowhere near the level of veracity, but this was an Alamo moment where you know we're going to hold the line and we're not gonna back off of this, I don't care what vitriol you throw at us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, and going back to Eagle Pass, now that there's more control there, it did exactly what everybody knew was gonna happen. Now the flow has been almost completely stopped. You want the?
Speaker 2:inside scoop on that. Yes, sometimes on the border there's an optic and there's a reality, as anything, and so I've worked that border in. My last mission on the Border was with the, the. Well, I'll say the name of the unit, but I'll just say they. Their first battle streamer says the Alamo on it, which is pretty cool, and that was unit I got out of.
Speaker 2:But yeah, the, the putting the wire at Eagle Pass, which is, look, there's still 1249 other miles of Texas border and there is a game that's played which is kind of whack-a-mole-ish in nature. And so the cartels know they have spotters on both sides. They've been doing that since they've been, you know days of Pancho, via. So we understand that. But what? What happened now is everybody's focused there and just like anything at the periphery, you know what's what's happening to the upstream. Downstream is where the, the true bad actors, come across. The mules with fentanyl I mean that's chemical warfare the, the guns going north, sometimes the guns going south, sometimes missing, you know zero numbers. I mean those are, those are reality of what's happening. And now you talk to any border sheriff and they'll tell you that their office is filled right now with captured weapons. Where, when I used to walk into the sheriff's offices a couple years ago, there wasn't any captured weaponry from cartels.
Speaker 2:So you know, that's that's to me now stepping up the game, because when it's just about moving Products, you know, let's say back in the day, maryland bundles of marijuana. Now we're talking about children that are being brought across to be sold as sex slaves. I mean, it's pretty ugly and it's, and some things way worse I wouldn't talk about here. But you know, then and then there was fentanyl, which now is laced with the trunk, which is xylosine, which is a horse tranquilizer that kills people. That's chemical warfare. The Chinese are behind that one, but they paired up with the cartels who don't care about people's lives, just money. And you know what's. What's that? That's the reverse of the opium ores of the 1820s through 50 when, yeah, it's a long.
Speaker 1:It's a long brewing hate. It's a long brewing hate.
Speaker 2:It's calculated, it's very calculated and it creates a, it de-moralizes the nation. It's what happened when they did it to China, when France and and Great Britain did it China over trade routes. Well, now the trade routes are in different forms, but it's still. Ultimately, the goal is to occupy the territory of the United States, to de-moralize and then to possibly Overtake from within, which is what Yuri Besmanov warned of. And so all these things are very clear to us, and you know, I'm a glasses half full guy and it's just, it's not gonna happen on our watch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it's time for individuals that have served, for people that are truly American first champions for the way of the American way of life, to start doing things, to start taking action. And it doesn't mean that I need you to go grab a rifle and go to the border. It means we need you to start talking and advocating and fucking writing letters and calling your representative and not sitting in the sideline. And, yeah, if it means running for an office, if you find that you're passionate for it, start getting involved. The culture has shifted and it needs to come back. We need to bring back the ideas that made us great. We need to bring back the way things were, and if we don't do that and start moving that ball, we are going to lose this.
Speaker 1:This is a very dangerous time right now. I'm not sitting back. I'm being more active, more talking about this, because mental health and resilience all tie into this. If you turn on the TV, you're watching nothing but the worst propaganda being funneled in from Netflix to Disney. It all has an agenda and we have to be willing to talk about it and understanding why they're putting that out there. Why is the optic being flipped to this? Why are we only hearing this information? Why are we talking about this? Why are we willing to engage and ask the questions and say like, hey, maybe we should have secure border. Maybe it's not an emotional argument, maybe it's not that I hate people, that I don't have compassion, maybe that I want our nation to be safe, secure and have stability? Why are we not talking about ending these forever wars? Why are we not engaging with the idea of like, hey, maybe the military industrial complex isn't a great thing, maybe we shouldn't be in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Syria, constantly perpetuating these forever wars?
Speaker 2:The fact that we never tried or never even fired anybody for what happened in Afghanistan, to me is just insane Indicative of the moral injury that is taking place from the top down and it is straight up indicative because when you've got a bunch of GOs that are pushing their way to get to the top, to become a senior executive staff person, and then in the SES model, which is the continuity of stupidity at the top, then those guys are all bumping elbows trying to get to Raytheon and Boeing and all those to then perpetuate wars. We're spending. I've been in my SF career in dozens and dozens of countries doing foreign internal defense and training people to be partner nations. Yet then we are now doing domestic internal defense here and then still looking at other ways to poke bubba in the eye downrange so that we can start another war and bomb Houthi rebels and try to. Okay, ukraine didn't work, let's try it in Poland now. Let's see if we can somehow get Russia to press the button.
Speaker 2:And I'm really interested to see what Tucker Carlson finds out with Putin, because that right there is going to then expose more. And then people will say, well then you must be a communist. Well, no, I'm the guy in 1983 that stuck a band that in a Russian dummy in Fort Benning, georgia, saying all right, we got to prepare for the Folger gap. So no, I'm not that guy.
Speaker 2:What I'm saying is that information drives operations. You know, intelligence drives operations, and so we've got to really measure three times to cut once here. And that's what I believe is important, because if I say that there's something wrong with this border and then you're going to come after me using all your resources I've been, possibly freeze my bank account and possibly do this or do that to come after me then I know that I'm over the target and it's just. It's not just me, I mean, I'm just, you know, I'm just one person in the wilderness out here, screaming as you are, and so yeah it. When you see that coming at you, you know that you must be striking a nerve somewhere.
Speaker 1:Absolutely it's. And I say it all the time If you're retired soft professional friend is telling you hey, this is something we should be passionate about and advocating about and talking about. Listen to them, For God's sakes. We go to the unconventional warfare school to learn every facet of unconventional warfare, to be students of what it means to go into a population, and it only takes a small percentage, a small percentage, to tip things over, to start moving that war effort.
Speaker 1:When you see things happening in your own country, in your own state that's where I'm at, that's where a lot of other green braids and other soft professionals are at where it's like this doesn't make sense. This is our scary situations and everyday Americans are just happy to just continue moving along, and the reason being is because we're all too comfortable, we're all too happy. And you look at other countries and you ask yourselves well, why did they? Why were they able to resist? Well, they didn't have comforts, they didn't have that Like. Hey, you know, the average American is very happy drinking their Starbucks, watching their Netflix. Hey, it's okay. What is a couple million immigrants coming through?
Speaker 2:Rather you know, nail on the head.
Speaker 2:You know, in our world and I learned in soft and from 2003 on through 22. And then, prior to that, as an illicit guy, I didn't know anything about this. But I'll tell you, the center of gravity of everything is people. Right, it really is. It's not infrastructure, it's not, you know, military, industrial, it's not politics. It's definitely not politics, you know.
Speaker 2:But when I was on the border the other day, sitting on the river looking at the Mike side we call it Mexico and I'm just sitting there watching to make sure that nothing happens across the way, 400 meters in Mexico, in this desolate area, just watch it and I had made contact with the federalis on the other side and said could you please patrol it? I have a friend that lives there. He he went and talked to him and they were out there on their side making sure I was on our side just watching. And just because I felt responsible for these people that were behind me, you know, doing a rally, really a rally, and it was a. It was a church service too, but I had a family there on the river that, in this really desolate place, mesquite trees, I mean the pecan orchards, there's nothing really there other than that and I walked in there and it was kind of like they offered me to kind of have lunch.
Speaker 2:So I sat down, had lunch with them and I said why are you guys still here? You got hundreds and hundreds of people a night coming across. I mean, you know your house has been plundered, you know your barns have been stolen, stolen from. And this old rancher looked at me and said Miss Raízes is done the key. He said my roots are buried here. Right, he's as American as they come, he's on the US side. And he told me that miss Raízes is done the key and I thought about that and I thought he's not leaving here because that's where his roots are from and he's still dealing with this. And these are the people, the center of gravity, who are overlooked at. You know Fox News and are overlooked at CNN and overlooked at the White House and are overlooked. They're just as important as Bill Gates, right?
Speaker 1:I would say, a little bit more.
Speaker 2:So that became my calling cry down there to people down there Look me, sir. I said you, our roots are buried here, whether you have a Hispanic background or a European, or all the way back to the Revolutionary War, you know. You now are here and these are your roots. And other people have the. They have the opportunity to do that, but they've got to do it through a system that doesn't get overwhelmed, Otherwise nobody gets anything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and there's, there's a system in place and when our own politicians and they have a way of they're really eloquent and they're really good with how they've word things and the phrases they use, we're going to fix the issues. We need to fix the immigration reform laws so that we can make immigration easier. And it's like you know, secure the borders Like secure the borders provide security, don't worry about paperwork and legalities, like make the process. Whatever you have to do on the back end, take care of that. Yes, absolutely, but you have to take care of the infrastructure, the actual systems that are going to keep people out rather than just walking in, like the reports of military age males coming across the border without families, without kids, unaccompanied males. That's not people seeking asylum, these aren't people seeking safety and we're looking at numbers that are through the roof.
Speaker 2:I think there's a division. Right now I'm talking to Jason Jones, who was an expert on the border, former DPS intelligence guy. He works I believe he speaks for Newsmax now. He knows the numbers and the numbers are in the Biden administration. At least a division of fighting age males or more have entered this nation.
Speaker 2:So if we look at that, I don't live in a spirit of fear, but we have to understand who's out there. As Sun Tzu would say, understand yourself and the enemy and you'll know the outcome. We've got to be able to be realistic about this and quit hiding things because, honestly, bro, it's the polished speakers, it's the politicians, the polished ones. Somebody said something about a little thing that I put out on my telegram and said well, this guy talks like an idiot. Well, no, I just talked plain. I don't want to listen to a polished person. Obama was polished. Look where that got us.
Speaker 2:So I could go on with people on the Hill that are polished, that are really not out there for us. We need to focus on states' rights the doctrine of lesser magistrates, if you will, where those sheriffs really mean a lot to us in Texas and there are some great sheriffs, but there's also some other ones out there that are cowards. I'm just going to say straight up cowards. That's where we need people like you and I to take off that uniform that we had and put on the sheriff's uniform and stand in the gap, even if that's the level. And then the other ones, like Cameron Hamilton, former SEAL, who's up there in Virginia running it for Congress against a guy named Bendman, whose brother was the guy that was inserted into the Ukraine conversation with the president and came after the president in uniform.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I did that I'd be thrown in the rig. But that's what we have to do. We've got to step into those positions of authority so that we can interpose. If you were, speak for our constituents and also stand on the line, because I don't have authorities, I don't have AAA authority here. I can't do everything, but I can find and fix locations like any other citizen can and say, hey, sheriff, that's what's going on there. Now you give us a badge and things will change. We'll knock it out pretty quick, but until then, until Texas legislators listen to us we've been asking, put us in, coach.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, that's exactly it. It's being able to give guys that are promote the idea of continued service, like now is the time, now is the absolute time to is not quite the desperate hours. There's still things we can do. But when you say, when you look at the numbers and you see the reality that there's a more than a division or division plus of individuals military age males that have come into your country and we don't know the answer and, dude, sit down, you have the detachment planning guide. Just plan it out. Play the red team, play the red team scenario. What would you do? Now?
Speaker 1:A lot of us have gone on and had additional planning and additional courses that help you build out all sorts of nefarious game ideas for red teams. Just sit down for one day, for maybe an hour, 90, 30 minutes, and I guarantee you can put together a great scenario where a division plus of individuals in your country could create a lot of chaos in the coming years. It's literally SF, dungeons and Dragons. You can do it and the result is pretty shocking. It's not a good feeling. It's not something that any of us should take lightly.
Speaker 1:But if we listen to modern media, we get baited with the idea that, if we talk about it, if we advocate against open borders or horrible, inhuman, non-compassionate individuals. And, brother, I am so tired of hearing that narrative Because 90% of what we've done in the military is nothing but being good, honest, hardworking, compassionate individuals, helping individuals and yeah, we ended up carrying a rifle and a lot of munitions while doing that, but a lot of the work we do was of service to others, and now it's time for us to do it here in this nation. I don't see the current administration doing anything, and the thing that scares me, too, is the fabrication of a crisis in order to contain and establish that chokehold of power going into an election year. I don't know if that's something that you thought of as well, but that's a big yeah in the election year stuff.
Speaker 2:I work with, like I said, Colonel Waldron, who is very astute in that regard and he helps to find the diminished machine problem. And then of course, locally we are very involved with politics in Texas in that we advise we had people from all around the country now come in to listen to the border situation, because that's our primary point here, of our think tank.
Speaker 2:But they come in and we sent down a lady that's running for Congress or for Senate in Michigan and she got to take off with one of our security guys. He's a level four state PSD guy. So he took her down and gave her a tour and introduced her to sheriffs. She came back and her eyes were wide open and said I had no idea. But that is what we need. We need those people to listen and then that way, when they get up there to those positions of authority can weigh in, so that we don't just think poorly of our federal government, because I don't want to think that way.
Speaker 2:My heart was broken on the day that they lost Afghanistan and then the state department really took the lead on that and just destroyed everything that we spent 20 years doing. Did we, in the very beginning of this thing, think that that was a good idea? No, but we're soldiers and we do what we need to do. But we also understand, as we learn more and more about it, we are the SMEs of those situations and so now, when this is happening to us and there's an insurgency within, we see it very clearly. You can see it a mile away. We're very left to bang on that because we see and go here's your cues, we need three. I think I've got about 450 cues right now that that's what's happening and all I need is three to say hey, I'm not going to drive down that road and get blown up again.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Yeah, that's absolutely correct. I think when I look at the situation right now, seeing that Texas is taking control and other states are backing it, I see the potential for a very scary, very tense next couple of months as we head into the election. Now more than ever, it's a clear, definitive issue. Before it was kind of like okay, well, you know, there's nothing we can do about it. Now Texas stood up and now more individuals are willing to say like okay, that's a pretty significant move For Texans there in the area. What are the feelings, what are the things going on? What are you hearing from the individuals and citizens of Texas right now?
Speaker 2:My viejo cabillero, friend down there on the border, who's you know older cowboy, that's you know Miesa or Asis. He's not going to move, that's his home. But then from that level all the way up to the senator that was standing here, texas state senator was standing in this room last week talking to a citizens group saying that, you know, thank you for being a citizens group that is concerned. And you know, that group grew from 20 people to over 400 now over the last year since I've been working here. So to me, people are mobilizing, the right people. Not, you know, I'm not judging, I'm just saying the right people are standing up in the sense that they come from all walks of life.
Speaker 2:And look, this whole operation that I just did, you know, I'm calling it an operation. I didn't wear a pistol at all on purpose, because I didn't want there to be this misconstrued, you know. So I'm on the border down there with no pistol on my side, thinking, man, this is an open carry state. But I'm going to make a statement like Andy Taylor, back, you know, back in maybe our D days of we can do this without. We can do this with judo. I ended up with a, you know, a smashed windshield, not windshield passenger window, with a sign on it saying next time for reels after this was over. So you know you're going to have those bad actors and my truck was parked on the side of the road with a bunch of other trucks, but you know, those are the fear factor things. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I always am concerned about personal safety, but my job was to be concerned about those people. Now what am I seeing? I'm seeing people standing up and saying no, so we're done with that, we're not playing on that field, we're not playing polo anymore, we're going rodeo in Texas. And that's what I see. If I could just speak it, you know, very simplistically and 40,000 foot view.
Speaker 2:But also what I've seen is, like I said, the partnerships, where the, where the law enforcement, who was standoffish in the beginning, are coming towards us and saying, hey, can you come down to headquarters? We really want to talk because whatever you guys are doing, it seemed to work. I gave 15 names to them, names and we know who they are. And then we reached out. We had Lara Logan here the other day and she was here at this rally and she said on stage they know who you are and you know you will, if something happens during this next few days, while this rally gets to the border, where we're going to, you know, share these names and you'll be the first people. Well, that's where, like, that's where that has gone, you know, at the operational level, that's where this is gone, so that people see that it's not cops and where these names come from.
Speaker 2:This is the best part Citizen journalists on the border, who are friends of mine, that I knew from when I worked on the border. I talked to him at the gates and at the at the you know, checkpoints and say, hey, you know, hey, can I get a word about the border, sir? You know, sure, here's what's going on. You know they're firing 50 cows into a Roma Texas.
Speaker 2:Last night from them, from the Mike side, okay, I mean, an old man was hitting the belly, you know, I mean it happened, went through his wall and hit him in the belly, watching, you know, probably watching Mayberry RFD, but you know that's that to me is like, okay, all that happened in the past which prepared us for now for a moment such as this, and so it's what I feel, all of us, you know, guys like us and it, it doesn't have to be.
Speaker 2:You know green braids I mean anybody that's ever served can understand that I can be eyes situation aware to speak to the citizens groups so that when senators come walking in on the state, they're then talking to their fellow Senate senators and Congress people and saying, hey, these people are on to what's going on and we really need to support them Because if we don't for them, they lose their jobs and that's their number one concern mostly. But for guys like the guy that was here, he doesn't care, he's 80 years old, he's just like. I'm doing this because I care about Texas. That is amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the other thing that I wanted to hit you up with. Everybody thinks that this caravan, this movement of people coming from South Central America and as far as China and Africa, is this organic thing that people are just moving their way. But as we've started to see and there's actually documented movie now it shows that this is a more nefarious and well orchestrated, well oiled machine, with checkpoints, with NGOs and other organizations that are you know, let's call it is aiding and abetting this illegal migration into the United States. Do you have any sources or anybody on the ground that has been seeing this? I know there's. There's people that are staged at, like the Darien Gap, for which is one of the most dangerous areas, that are able to document and show like yeah, not only are these people in danger of being preyed upon by traffickers, but some are getting killed. Women are being taken away, kids are being taken away. What are some of the things that you've heard or information you got from?
Speaker 2:that. So one of the people that we talked to a lot and he's actually about 200 meters behind us in an RV trailer, just on our right now is Michael Yon, former 10th group guy back in the 80s 90s, got out, became a combat journalist or combat correspondent.
Speaker 2:He's been staying in the Darien Gap and sending us information. Now he came specifically for this rally to be here to document what was going on, and he will tell you that right there in the Darien Gap, in the actual Camp Vicente, which is the main camp as they come from the south, and the gap is 26 miles of no roads essentially, so there's no roads between Colombia and Panama. So in that Camp Vicente there's what's called a China house, and the China house has really called that for a reason, and so that's where the Chinese go to meet up with people in the China house. And then next to that is the actual UN, so the IOM. You know it's a immigration UN faction, that, and it's OIM or IOM, depending what language you use. They are then processing from there and then giving them essentially their marching orders and that looks like this.
Speaker 2:And now I can marry up with what Michael's seen, with what I saw on the border when I met 17,000 Haitians in Del Rio about a year and a half ago over 48 hours there were no, but it was hot. I went out with my medic bag and started, you know, helping people because they were, you know, literally dying in the heat and doing IVs and all this other stuff. But then we're talking to them. While I'm down there with my medic bag in front of me, talking to these people, they were showing me their WhatsApp and here's my plan right in my WhatsApp I got to go to here, and then I got to go to here, and then when I get before I get across the Darien, because there's the Mbara Indians in there, that who will extort them for money, or the FARC, you know, in Colombia. So I've got to make sure that I have enough money, so I send it ahead to a Western Union, mexico City, and then when I get there, I can pull my money back out so that I can pay the PISO, which is the tax to the cartels at the border. Cdn, cnjg, golfo, sinaloa, la Linha, whoever you're going to meet on the border, they have a different tax.
Speaker 2:You wear this little like thing you went to Six Flags that says, okay, I get across the border, they take those off. No shit, it's very organized and there are buses and there is this and there's that, and there's NGOs and, you know the Catholic Charities, you know the Hebrew H-I-A-C, I think Hayek. They're doing that. So they're taking the name of religion and they're using that to make those people comfortable to come up to them. There's nothing religious or spiritual about those people. They're using that stuff.
Speaker 2:So those people that are coming up, they're just innocent pawns that are being used in most cases. But then in that masses are the nefarious actors who then typically pay a lot more money to come through here more securely, through their routes out in the periphery, where I go with my horse and say, okay, well, here they are, here's what's going on. We've got everything on these pokes at the grassroots level for us. But yeah, no, I firmly that's the world I live in is looking at those patterns and analyzing it and giving that information to the appropriate authority so they can then do the finished part, which is putting handcuffs on the bad ones and then not letting those other people from those other countries being to be exploited.
Speaker 2:But it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a menu, it's I saw it on the WhatsApp. It's a menu and it just tells you, tells them, how to do it, and that's just one menu. There are others. Some of them were handed out by the American Red Cross. They're right across the border, some of them UNESCO. Gives them a bag with a phone and some money in it or a debit card and says here you go. Now, if I showed up at the border of Russia and somebody handed me some rubles and a Russian phone, I'd be like, well, this is awesome, man, but then how long is that going to go on before they take all that away? And then now I'm hungry and I'm on the street corner of Moscow, and now I've got to roll somebody up because I got to feed my family.
Speaker 1:That's as simple as exactly people that live a shelter life here. They have never left the United States other than the vacation to go on a Royal Caribbean cruise. They don't understand the desperation that comes when you don't have anything, when you don't have anything when you can, when that my, as those hierarchy of needs, it doesn't fucking exist for you, because the only thing that you're ever trying to worry about is putting food and water in your belly or your kid's belly. Yeah, you're going to do some fucked up shit. Yeah, you're going to do some horrible, dehumanized things. Listen, here's a here's another.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna give you fact witness stuff. This is facts there are. There are 86,000 kids that have come across this border. They're unaccounted for that. They know what? All right, no talking about. They DHS Homeland security and they had them off to the different groups who are supposed to set them in families with sponsor families.
Speaker 2:We found personally in Austin, texas, not that far away, about an hour away from here, 119 boys that are in a in a apartment complex with five, five sponsor families. Now, how does that work? Okay, you tell me, 119 kids are being taken care of, five sponsor families, one of which is illegal themselves. And then you go in that neighborhood and there's, there's tags everywhere it says Los Cholos All right, the gang of boys. So they're down there and these kids be aging from, ranging from the ages of 12 to roughly 18. That was last year when I we first found them, gave it to the. We gave the information to the local law enforcement. They did what they had to do.
Speaker 2:I don't know what the outcome was. It wasn't my job, but that's telling you that they lost control of people. That's just 119 of the 86,000. They're missing and and and they're being used as check this out, to go around Austin and smash windows of cars, just take stuff out of it to bring it back to fence it. That's what's happening, that's the reality of it and that's just that, all right.
Speaker 2:What are they happening to little girls, like the little girls that I saw in Roma, sisters, seven and eight year old, from Guatemala, who looked at me and grabbed my leg and said thank you when I pulled them away from Two guys that were not their, their parents, and at three o'clock in the morning, and that wasn't even my job, and I handed them to border patrol guys who are good dudes on the border. But then they got a hand them to somebody else and I have to think to myself I got two daughters. I gotta think. I still remember their eyes, you know, filling with tears, think, saying thank you to me, grabbing me with body armor on a weapon and a dog and saying, wow, we're safe right now. But are you because? Are you gonna go somewhere where you're gonna be safe? They didn't even know where their family was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah and that's a reality of it, the more. The more that we continue, we are enabling a black market industry of of pushing people through hundreds of miles of the worst terrain imaginable to get here to Get exploited and that's a reality. Bleeding hearts and individuals that are and you, you know who you are, you know who they are they will chastise you for wanting to take action. They will call you the worst names on earth. Because you want security, because you want people to come in, enter United States legally and you want people to be safe and secure and not take these perilous journeys like it.
Speaker 1:The more we continue to allow it, the more people are gonna be hurt, the more people are gonna die Trying to make this journey and the more people are gonna get exploited and sold like there is nothing good about this. This is a dangerous thing to continue doing. And if you're not thinking of the human factor and you think and it makes you feel good because you're like, yes, welcome everybody in here, that's a great feeling. But educate yourself, be willing to be uncomfortable and face the reality of the situation, that individual that you're like championing to come here and have every resource on earth, yeah, that makes you feel good at that moment. But peel back the layer. Look at the reality of the situation.
Speaker 2:I'd look at the look at the fool, always look at the second and third order effects, always consider the worst-case scenario and Always, always, always err on the side of focusing on the center of gravity, which is the people being used as ponds, the people that live in these areas. And it's not look every state now as a border state. I mean, as far as I'm concerned this just happens to be closer to me, but you know, people of Arizona all the way down, I mean that's gonna just overwhelm their systems. And if they're law enforcement, you know New Mexico is complete captured territory In the minds of the citizens that say our leaders are not standing up for us, new Mexico is out of control. Yeah, they, they won't stand up there. On the on the Legislative and law enforcement side, you know you and I went to just for people to know on this thing. We went to. You know our training together right, and so you know who would have thought in those days.
Speaker 2:You know I was the oldest guy there, me and rad, and you know yeah, Looking at you guys for motivation and you guys are looking at us for you know kind of the old man wisdom and you know a few medical skills here and there. But we would have never thought in those days that we were, we thought we'd go Do our time, we get out and retire or do a little. You know a few. Some people just do a few years and I respect that just as much. But we never would have thought that we'd be conducting domestic internal defense.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, absolutely and definitely not with the idea that I would be Back into the same mentality back if we're trying to figure out F3 ad without the mechanisms and supports of redside.
Speaker 2:I mean we don't have any people ask me how do you know all this information? Do you still have access to the red side of my? I have no access to anything other than just citizens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, green side and and lots of digging and getting to the reality of the truth, because Surface level is surface level. Like you got a dig and I can't validate this source, I'm gonna dig into another one. And if you're out there listening and you're wondering, well, why Danny white, danny, danny, you're a mindfulness guy. You're the resiliency, the mental health get. Yeah, you know I talk about that stuff and it's really important. But once a warrior, always a warrior, it. I want you to continue living your best life and getting that high paying, awesome job. But, yeah, you also have a duty to your nation and to your local community and you can do both. Brothers and sisters.
Speaker 2:Realm. You know the resilience stuff that's so important that we have a purpose, because you know that, yeah, when we I went through that dark time, I got fired for my job on the border, for doing it form consents. And then I'm like in my trailer, you know, just not not working out. Just you know I don't drink or anything, but you know, just laying there watching you know reruns of stuff and I'm like now, screw this, I'm gonna get up and go help out some friends on the border. And that's how they started with me and a dog and a horse, I mean. But the purpose is there. You just got to reach out and get it and get off. You know, get off the couch and say, okay, I'm gonna make my bed and I'm gonna go to work.
Speaker 1:Absolutely yeah, and I'm thankful and You're my prayers every single night and I can't thank you enough for joining us again, doc, for giving us an update, and Very grateful that nothing went down. You guys are safe and, brother, continue doing what you're doing, advocating for, for change and for some action to actually take place because, like we've all seen it, it it starts at home, it starts with us, like we have to be the change that we want to see and we have to be active. Hey, dale press, only bear Damn right, brother, until next time. Thank you for tuning in. We'll see you all later. If you like what we're doing and you enjoying the show, don't forget to share us, like us, subscribe and head on over to our patreon, where you can be part of our community and get access to all of our episodes as soon as they drop. And remember we get through this together, take care.